After finishing Andrew Breitbart's book, I got to thinking. He pointed something out that I hadn't considered. And it got me wondering if the whole American way of life is an unsustainable ideology. And if not, how would we go about plugging the holes that have led us to where we are today. Basically, all of the problems we suffer from today as a nation came from the Frankfurt school's infiltration of American culture. And they were able to do this because they exploited our good natured way of life. Because we welcomed people from everywhere, from all walks of life, and invited them to become part of our melting pot, we left ourselves wide open for people who wanted to destroy us to come in as a Trojan horse. And that's exactly what happened. Now after many decades, their beliefs have spread like a virus and become the dominant mindset among our people and essentially rendered America a suicidal superpower as Pat Buchanan would call it. So the question is how could this have been prevented? What could we have put into the Constitution that might have kept these evil people out? How could we have prevented them from exploiting all of the things that made our country great and using them against us to bring us down from within? And most importantly, how could we have done this without sacrificing our own basic freedoms in the process? Or is this just an inevitable consequence of the American way? Is it a sustainable ideology? Or is it merely a bubble with an expiration date? All thoughts welcome.
This is rather vague. Who are "they" that have infiltrated the country? When did "they" infiltrate and what is "their" ideology you think has ruined the country?
This. Seems like a more than healthy dash of paranoia when you start throwing around "they" and "others". How much of America's greatness was brought in by people of non European cultures?
If there's a defect in the Constitution, amendment is the obvious remedy. Offhand I'd say nothing. However, there were at least two things in the Constitution which arguably catered to the enemies of liberty; the first being the original provisions which implicitly countenanced slavery, and the second being 14A, which is sloppily crafted and overly restrictive of states' rights IMO. As to your overarching, point, though, while I believe the Constitution could stand tuning up here and there, its defects don't account for more than 1% of the problem in my view. Ideologies are entirely dependent for their sustenance on human beings, so the real question is whether Americans have the heart to maintain the eternal vigilance freedom requires.
The problem has always lain in the people, their total lack of care. As Franklin said as he left the convention, "A Republic madam, if you can keep it". First came Amendment 12, the first lost of a check and balance, the election of the president and vice president not only by the masses, but establish the means of rule by the party system. The first crack in the dyke. There was also a major issue that the founders believed was not adequately addressed and which the founders attempted to plug with the original 13th Article, but that was covertly destroyed by a little fire in 1813. This was a huge problem, the results of which are felt so severely today but is so little actually seen or understood by the masses. Then came the the worse period in this countries history, Abraham Lincoln, the first of the major crooks from that illustrious state of Illinois. The state that gave us the "BAR" Association, all the way from London. This guy did more damage to this country than can be covered in so short an article so let's just cover the 13th Amendment, not to free the slaves but to make it illegal for anyone other than the government to have slaves. But as an offshoot by his VP after his getting capped, that 14th Amendment, that removed another set of checks and neutered the 10th Amendment. Supposedly, the 14th Amendment was to make all equal, not by establishing true freedom for the new freemen, but by the diminishing of the freedoms of all others. But total destruction of a life style didn't come until good old Woodrow Wilson, the weak minded individual that was chosen to surrender a once free nation. First with the 16th Amendment, forced slavery of the masses, the government now owned a percentage of each person. Then the Federal Reserve, passing ownership of the people over to the new owners, the banks. But it didn't stop there, next came the 17th Amendment, the elimination of the states, the largest check and balance to the whole system. Then he gave us WWI, even as the people were against it until the propaganda wars. After all there is tremendous profit to be made on war and the financing of war. Then came FDR and the socialist period goes into full swing. The American people discover they can vote themselves benefits, all they had to do was sacrifice the freedoms of others, the collapse of the republic and the rise of the democracy, history be damned. So what holes are you talking about? There were no holes as understood as the trust was designed, they all came by the complacency of the masses.
So to read your dissertation, one would think that Americans walking around in the early 1800s all had roses growing from their butts and life was perfect. If you think there was perfect freedom, or that everyone agreed on what freedom was and what the role of government was when the Constitution was first drawn, then you need to get back and look at history a bit closer.
The Constitution is fine, it is a varying array of events that caused immigrants to change. In the beginning they were welcome because they usually brought vitally needed trade skills with them and we needed expansion into the West. All was good for the most part. Then the Industrial Revolution happened and these immigrants who were building the nation turned into factory workers, mostly unskilled. Then you had the development of Urban communities where blacks and other non-preferred people were forced into driving up the poverty, crime, and all that fun stuff. So if you want to have prevented the influx of negative minorities you should have: 1. Not created the Atlantic Triangle. 2. Not allowed expansion into the West past the Mississippi. 3. Not allowed the Industrial Revolution to happen.
Early 1800's, perhaps you need to review history. The Articles of Confederation were drawn up right after the War for Independence and the Constitution was drafted in 1787. Seems you are in the wrong century to begin with. And while you are reviewing, perhaps you should look at what the people understood during that period. So when you discover the right period and get some facts together, bring them on back, otherwise just some emotional remarks with little to offer in the furtherance of the conversation.
Sigh. You said everything was great until the 12th Amendment, which was ratified in the early 1800s - followed by the 13th and 14th - that is why I said the early 1800s ... just keep in mind where you start your diatribe before you get all freaky next time.
A Constitution won't help you, you need an active government upholding your rights. That being said, I do think the drafters of a Constitution should be very careful about the wording, because what is said, or not said, can lead to unintended consequences. The simple majority of elected representative has the power, and are fond of stretching the meaning of the wording in a restrictive Constitution to mean what they need to pass a questionable law, or a law that delegates very broad powers.
I would have to agree to some small degree with your statement. I would disagree that the problem lies with the immigrants but in how we started handling them. As part of growing this nation into the power house it became, we accepted the tired, the hungry, and the outcasts. But once here, they were on their own. Their fate was their own and no others. I would have to agree that it was the industrial revolution that changed things, not only with immigrants but with those now citizens of this nation. It was the pulling of people from the land into the industrial areas, the surrender of man's freedom to the slavery of working for another, a wage slave. But all that had nothing to do with the constitution, that has just been the means to the ends of subverting it.
So comprehension is the problem, are you aware of the subject of this thread? Of course not, just wanted to interject some crude remarks. I would suggest one try and keep up before trying to change the subject.
Uh, I was talking specifically about the Frankfurt school. I mentioned them by name. See? I assume you know who they are? You should if you hold liberal views. They are the basis of everything you believe. Touché! Good point.
Not a Constitutional remedy, but a legal one. The problem goes back to McCulloch v Maryland, where the "necessary and proper" clause was perverted from the clear, plain meaning of the words to allow illicit federal power grabs in ways never conceived by the framers, to allow other clauses such as the Commerce Clause to be stretched beyond all reasonable interpretation in overreach after overreach over the decades. We ceased being a constitutional republic in the 20th century due to missteps and politicization of our high court, and are now rapidly declining into mob rule as a result. It was preordained, and amazing that it lasted as long as it did. The only real delineation in US politics is the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-lawyer-MSM Complex versus the rest of us. All else is illusion.
