How do we speed up the politically irrelevancy of the far right ?

Keyword, in "our" conversation you havent brought it up, but I can do a poll literally right now and show you its only right wingers who think minorities are mooching off the white mans taxes, not a single liberal will try and say that. Want me to prove you wrong? Just say the word.

 

You are correct that calling someone out for being racist is not fomenting racial tensions. "Capitalizing" which I believe was the word you used, in the form of perpetuating the misconception that racism exists around every corner, IS fomenting racial tensions, and is precisely what you have bragged about and continue doing.

 

We dont say its around every corner, we are saying its only in the one corner over there where the republicans are standing, but this corner over here with the democrats is safe.

 

Prove me wrong about what? That the only person who has said anything like that in OUR conversation is you? That doesnt require a poll, it only requires scrolling up and reading what each has written. I love this style of debate that you are employing where YOU put words into MY mouth, and then insist that "I" defend the words that YOU put into MY mouth.

 

That is fine if you feel the need to clarify that you disngenuously accuse racism around every corner only when that corner includes a Republican. I dont think that changes the parameters of this discussion one iota, but if it made you feel better to provide that clarification, then so be it.

 

The world doesnt revolve around you, you're not the only republican, what I say to you about republicans im talking about in general, not you specifically, what I can prove to you that its only republicans that think blacks are mooching off white tax dollars, no liberals think that. Im not talking about you, calm down. There are some decent republicans, but they allowed their party to be hijacked by far right Christians so we have no choice but to now destroy the party and reform it in the future to be more progressive, even if still right wing just as long as its not so far right they have become a theocracy.

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lol, you're funny

 

Indeed the world does NOT revolve around me. This is a nation of 315 million people, where roughly speaking about half vote Democrat and about half vote Republican. Out of the many millions that vote Republican, you will find some that are very intelligent, and some that are complete morons. Out of the many millions that vote Democrat, you will find some that are very intelligent, and some that are complete morons. With that being said, all you are doing is picking and choosing the words from the complete morons, and insisting that those morons are the sole drivers of republican ideology. I could do the same thing with the words of some Democrat supporters around here, constantly insisting that other Democrats defend their words, but I choose not to because I think that tactic is useless, lacks any probative value whatsoever, and quite frankly is beneath the dignity with which I choose to conduct myself.

 

And the racial stuff is pure coincidence......

 

That's because it wasn't about racism but about police reacting to a
violent offender who attacked police officers as was clearly pointed out.
The race baiters did everything they could to make that the case and
succeeded. This demonstrates how the left want to keep the flames
of racism burning at all costs and refuse to allow racism to die the
death it deserves.

 

Thats the thing, you cant do the same. Yes there are some dumb democrats, but I have yet to ever see a racist one. 100% of the time I see a racist person they hold deep right wing views, xenophobia is a right wing platform. Left wing is multicuralist and globalist, the right wing is mono-cultural and nationalist. Mono-culturalism is easily seen as racist by the left, nationalism is even seen as racist for good reason. The point is, not all republicans are racist but all racists are republicans, or at the very least right wing. Show me a SINGLE liberal saying something racist, not just "Oh this liberal said the word racism, therefore he is racist" or "This white liberal is helping black people and not white people" helping black people isnt racist no matter how you try and twist and turn it. The right wing is under the assumption the most "racist" thing liberals do is that they help black people, that is absolutely hilarious. Thing like affirmative action, helping minorities, is seen as racism so just as I said, when liberals help minorities we are called racist and that is seriously one of the funniest thing in the world and not a joke someone can just make up, reality tends to be much funnier than made up stories and republicans saying helping black people is racist is certainly on top of the funny list.

You may not think mono-culturalism is a good thing, the problem is there are a ton of right wingers who do, and not a single liberal. If there is a liberal who thinks multiculturalism is bad PLEASE show me because I honestly have not ever seen it a single time.

 

To what racial stuff specifically are you referring? ....and how is this related to the fact that Republicans overwhelmingly win the bible belt?

 

The Rodney King beating wasnt racist?!?

*You see here republicans, this is why we call you guys racist morons. Look at what your own members are saying, and try and show me a single liberal who says racist crap like this. Until you condemn these members in your party, you will continue to be lumped in with them as racists and its your fault I dont feel bad for you, but if you condemn people like this than we wont have this problem, its much like how you guys want moderate Muslims to condemn the violent muslims, well we want moderate republicans to condemn extreme far right racist republicans like this guy, its only fair and perfectly logical, I hope thats not asking for too much.

 

Pure propaganda, a lie you and others repeat over and over here without ANY meaningful substantiation other than the same four-five specious talking points. It... never... happened. Have thoroughly debunked the "Southern Strategy" in -every- way here time after time. Every time someone posts it without demonstrating it, which is your burden to do, not mine to disprove, they look more and more the doctrinaire fool.

 

Because the bible supports racism, that is why the hyper religious south were so stuck into slavery and racism, whereas the more secular north was not.

 

I could go through this board and pick out a hundred really stupid utterances from Democrat supporters. This is political chat afterall, and as such is littered with ignorant vitriole. The goal in such a forum is NOT to find the lowest common denominator and hold that up as the norm. You are doing just that with the race issue, and as admitted by you, using this to "capitalize" politically. You will never be taken seriously with such tactics, and all the times that you cry wolf on the race issue, it takes away credibility of those alleging racism when it truly exists. In essence, you are actually harming race relations for political gain, which I personally find to be despicable. To each their own.

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Hmmm.....Im not so sure that religion was more prevalent in the South than it was in the North in the days of slavery.

 

What are you talking about? Jesus wasn't white he had olive skin

 

OK, so there is indeed widespread leftist racism, and you have proven that in the above. Also, thanks for the admission that you, yourself are a racist. IMO that makes everything else you post here suspect as biased.

What an obvious, disgusting rationalization of your racism. It is reminiscent of the "good black people, bad black people" BS I've heard.

Ugh. Sentence has a high quotient of sanctimonious, platitudinous blather, hurts my eyes to read it, let alone the fact that no part of it is in any way a reflection of the actual goals of the left.

I'm not a racist, but if I -did- have any bigoted proclivities, they would be focused on taking the vote away from people like you. And with that, no more keystrokes wasted.

Well, just a few more... and your challenge to produce evidence of "just one" racist leftist? Taken, won and put back in your face, no matter how much text you decide to squirm around in instead of simply admitting you were wrong.

 

Did you not even read what I said? Im not talking about stupid liberals, im talking about racist liberals, You made absolutely no mention of racist liberals and instead resorted to a strawman saying "I could go through this board and pick out a hundred really stupid utterances from Democrat supporters." knowing full well I dont care about "stupid utterances", im talking about "racist utterances", show me a single one of those, just one. You arent the first person ive asked to do this, not a single person has been able to show me a racist liberal, you expect me to believe its the liberals who are the true racists and the not the ones saying racist crap? Funny.
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Its common knowledge that they were, here is a good example from Frederick Douglas „
"I assert most unhesitatingly that the religion of the south ⎯ as I have
observed it and proved it ⎯ is a mere covering for the most horrid crimes, the
justifier of the most appalling barbarity, a sanctifier of the most hateful frauds,
and a secure shelter under which the darkest, foulest, grossest, and most infernal
abominations fester and flourish. Were I again to be reduced to the condition of
a slave, next to that calamity, I should regard the fact of being the slave of a
religious slaveholder the greatest that could befall me. For of all slaveholders
with whom I have ever met, religious slaveholders are the worst. I have found
them, almost invariably, the vilest, meanest and basest of their class. Exceptions there may be, but this is
true of religious slaveholders, as a class. It is not for me to explain the fact. Others may do that; I simply
state it as a fact, and leave the theological and psychological inquiry which it raises to be decided by
others more competent than myself. "
http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/pds/maai/community/text3/religionofthesouth.pdf

 

Never took American History, huh, it shows.....

 

lol so im racist for saying whites have the most privilege? Just as I said, you cant show something that is actually racist from someone on the left, you can only play semantics about how "Well you dont love white people as much as me so you must be racist!" just further proving my point the more you type.

 

Try telling that to Fox News and other republicans, I dont believe in Jesus as divine but if he did exist yes he was not exactly "white". Im not the one saying he is white, its the republicans.

 

I was talking about finding the lowest common denominator, and holding that up as the norm, which is specifically what you are doing with the race issue. If you are to insist that I identify a racist liberal on this board, off the top of my head, you would be my first choice. Your every thought word and deed is focused on race baiting, which is indeed an insidious form of racism.

 

What an excellent tactic, instead of dealing with racism instead call the ones who are dealing with racism, racists. Comedy wouldnt exist if the right wing didnt exist.

edit: Ok, the right is always claiming the left is "race baiting" but can you show me someone on the left who is not race baiting but is still racist? When liberals shine light on racism in a attempt to get public support to stop it, republicans call it "race baiting", which is ridiculous so im asking can you find a liberal who says something racist but is not "race baiting"? If we were racist, surely you could find one clip of a liberal saying something racist without race baiting.

 

Yes, attributing a trait, in this case being "privileged" onto some group of people based on skin color, in this case "white," is the very definition of racism. That you are ignorant of that, or more likely trying to rationalize it, doesn't surprise me at all.

And you agreed with the phrase "white privilege" not that "whites have the most privilege." The distinction is important despite yet another of your squirming, dishonest rationalization attempts.

 

You say the distinction is important, and I agree but the distinction is obviously implied, no one on the left is saying "White skin genetically gives you privilege"(unlike many on the right), what we are saying is white privilege has been invented in culture. Here is a good example, I live in El Paso Texas, which is over 85% Mexican, here Mexicans get privilege, not Cubans, not Dominicans, Mexicans. Its a nationalist thing because Cubans are the same color as far as im concerned, but they dont like them either because they arent from Mexico which makes it Nationalistic. The point is wherever there is a majority, unless there is absolute equality which the right vehemently opposes, than there is going to be one group having privilege over another group, thats part of the unequal world we live in sadly. America is majority white, so they get the most privilege, when people talk about white privilege they arent talking about white privilege in El Paso, they are talking about it in Mississippi, Georgia, places with large amounts of white people that run the majority of the businesses and own the majority of the wealth. I think you are confusing white privilege with white superiority, we are not saying whites are genetically superior or genetically "privileged", we are saying its a cultural privilege therefore it can be eliminated with education about racism, which requires us to talk about it and criticize racists openly.

I made this point pages ago in my original post on white privilege,