How does Mohammad compare to Hitler?

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  1. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    In light of the victory for free speech in a recent poll here on politicalforum.com, I triumphantly make this post.


    Q: Which thought killing the Jews was a good idea?
    A: Both Mohammad and Hitler.
    Sahih Muslim Book 041, Number 6985:
    Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.


    Q: Which one had sexual intercourse with little Aisha when she was only NINE, and still playing with dolls?
    A: Mohammad. Hitler was more moral than Mohammad.


    Q: Which approved of slavery (yep, slavery)?
    A: Both. Which one has followers today who (on this very forum) DEFEND this?....Mohammad.


    Q: Which loved dogs, and which one had dogs killed?
    A: Hitler loved dogs, Mohammad had dogs killed.


    Q: a. Which said a Muslim woman could not marry a non-Muslim man?
    b. Which said a Jewish woman could not marry a non-Jewish man?
    A: a. Mohammad. http://quran.com/2/221
    b. Hitler


    Q: Which approved of rape of captives?
    A: At least Mohammad did.


    Q: Which one said to kills gays.
    A: Both. Mohammad is not more moral than Hitler.


    Q: Which said women are worth 1/2 a man.
    A: Mohammad. Hitler was more moral than Mohammad.


    Q: Which, in chapter 8 of his book, said to give a certain percentage of the booty you plunder to him?
    A: See the Qur’an.


    Q: Which forbade pictures of the living, playing chess, playing music?
    A: Mohammad. So maybe you’d rather live under the Nazis?


    Q: Which one had 10+ wives, but forbade anyone else from having that many, ever?
    A: Mohammad.


    Q: Which believed in genies, and a flying horse (about as believable as a flying pig)?
    A: The one that was the least sane of the two.


    Q: Which had suicidal thoughts?
    A: Both.


    Q: Which one sexually thighed a SIX year-old little girl?
    A: Mohammad. Hitler was more moral than Mohammad.


    Q: Which approved of torture?
    A: Both.


    Q: Which one didn’t believe (ultimately) in democracy, but favored totalitarianism?
    A: Both.


    Q: Which is responsible for the longest war in US history, with no end in sight?
    A: Mohammad. So Mohammad may ultimately prove more damaging to the US than Hitler was.


    Q: Which of their belief systems should I follow?
    A: Neither, obviously.
     
  2. Prof_Sarcastic

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    And in light of the opinion I personally posted there, let me just say that for me, this thread lives up to those expectations.
     
  3. Pasithea

    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    I am no fan of Islam but even I can see that this is a guilt by association fallacy.

    In my opinion the evils in Islam, Christianity and Judaism can stand on their own without having to compare them to the Nazi party.
     
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    Want to know how relating it to Hitler relates to other people's post on comparing people to Hitler? By me telling you to knock off the nazi comparsion, and think of someone new.
     
  5. FreedomSeeker

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    But most people, including the people we give the most power/respect to (Obama and Romney, etc.), would say that Islam is HEAD AND SHOULDERS ABOVE Hitler, but the OP shows this is simply not true. They don't get the DEGREE to which Mohammad sunk.
     
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    Who's a better role model, Moses or Mohammed?
     
  7. FreedomSeeker

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    Probably Mohammad.
     
  8. FreedomSeeker

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    Guys, the main point of this thread is that if Mohammad were REALLY a divinely-inspired final prophet of god and was indeed the one true best role model for all time, like he claimed, then it would be very very hard to compare him unfavorably to a monster like Hitler. But it's like taking candy from a baby. Is that clear?

    What's stunning to me is that, when the #1 role model to 22% of the entire world's population is being compared to H-I-T-L-E-R ("THE WORST PERSON EVER"!) that no REFUTATIONS of my points are offered by forum posters! Zero, zip, nada! That's because it's a losing argument to disagree with any claim I made in the OP. However, compare Richard Dawkins to Hitler (you can't do it), and refutations of your individual claims would come very swiftly from forum posters.

    Muslims, I love you, but you need to at least check out other belief systems.
     
  9. Kholief

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    All of your comparative points are either fabrications or taken out of context.
     
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    Care to enlighten us there - mmmm Bubba?
     
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    No I don't , I've found that these discussions are useless and no matter what you say you won't change anyone's mind . So unless I looking to make a profession out of this,it's a waste of time.

    Though if you want to learn more on the topic then I'd suggest you read : Muhammad: A Story of the Last Prophet by Deepak Chopra it's a great and easy read.
     
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    No I don't , I've found that these discussions are useless , in the end no matter what you say you won't change anyone's mind . So unless I'm looking to make a profession out of this,it's a waste of my time.

    Though if you want to learn more on the topic then I'd suggest you read : Muhammad: A Story of the Last Prophet by Deepak Chopra it's a great and easy read.
     
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    Then why post? You offer nothing and then complain about being asked. Id suggest you actually post some backup.
     
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    Okay , my mistake I shouldn't have posted.
     
  15. Theodelite

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    That's your decision, of course, but don't forget that there are many people who read your posts without ever replying or joining the thread. So if what you have to say is a good rebuttal of what someone else has posted, you might be convincing the unknown reader, if not the poster who you are addressing. Never forget the lurkers.
     
  16. FreedomSeeker

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    NOW we're getting somewhere.
    CHALLENGE ME WITH SPECIFICS, DUDE! We see right through your "taqiyya" if you don't! Mohammad instructed Muslims to lie to the Infidel when appropriate (taqiyya).
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    But neither Jesus or Muhammed were as evil as these atheists:

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    I think you are correct. Now show me how these people were evil because of their atheism, and maybe explain how they would not have been evil if they had been Christian. Thanks.
     
  19. FreedomSeeker

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    YOU CAN'T, **THAT'S** WHY!

    Chopra leaves out the bad stuff....I've seen an interview he did and he EXCUSED MOHAMMAD'S PEDOPHILIA....excused it!
    On Youtube, find Chopra apologizing to Richard Dawkins for things Chopra said about Dawkins that were not true! Don't believe any of Jesus', or Mohammad's, or Chopra's magic! His "Quantum Physics" is a hoax. Dawkins provides evidence, Chopra provides magic.

    YES, Mohammad did a number of good things, but so did Hitler, so it doesn't excuse Mohammad's approval of rape of captives, for example.

    I TOLD you guys that no one is REFUTING the assertions in the OP....they want to, badly (as he shows), but they just can't. Please realize that Mohammad was one of the sickest people to ever live on the planet. He had Asma B Marwan, and Abu Afak SLAUGHTERED, just because they criticized him. That's like a forum member slaughtering another member because one was critical of the other. Sick! He's a barbarian, not the greatest man to have ever lived. The War on Terror is mostly (but not completely) Mohammad's (indirect) fault. Kill Infidels who are standing in the way of spreading his Sharia Law, and you get a butt-load of virgins!

    Muslims, you're being conned by a pedo, and looking foolish in the process. You are good people, so don't let a 7th century immoral warlord take away that goodness. Three words for you: modern Secular Humanism
     
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    I can show you many theists who follow the evil Bible/Quran, but you can't show us ONE atheist on this forum who follows their teachings....none of them are a "prophet" (if you will) to any atheist on this forum. But Jesus, who approved of slavery 3 times in the Bible certainly is a prophet to forum members. Besides, do some research and you'll see that N Korea DOES have a state "religion" ("Juche"), complete with KJI haviing near supernatural powers, such as making his first ___ number of golf shots as holes in one. I'll bet you my LIFE that Dawkins and Harris don't subscribe to Juche.
     
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    Kholief, you say you live in Cairo. When you see the gigantic amounts of sexual harrassment of women that occurs there, realize that it's Mohammad's teachings that (indirectly) lead to that. There are many reasons why, the main one is that women are worth 1/2 that of a man, such as in inheritance., and a financial court of law. That's INdirect, yes, but still indicative of the disregard Mohammad had for women. He said the majority of inhabitants of hell are women, because they disobey their husbands. Maybe THAT'S why Quran 4:34 instructs Muslim to beat their wives!

    I think over the next few years you'll likely see a mass exodus of native-born-Muslim women from Islam, when they see that it's basically a religion that was simply designed to attract Arab men, to fight in Mohammad's criminal theft gang.
     
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    SpaceCricket, you clicked "dislike" for the OP. Please give us point by point rebuttals for entries that you disagree with. If the #2 most followed person in world history can be easily (very easily) compared to the "worst man of all time" then the world should know about that, don't you agree?

    Theists, start a "Richard Dawkins is worse that Hitler thread", to make it fair, if you disagree with the OP. My bet is that because Dawkins uses science, reason, and critical thinking (and not magic like Jesus/Mohammad/Moses/Buddha) that you simply can't.
     
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    Muhammed didn't systematically exterminate millions of people based on their race like Hitler did, so I'd have to say Hitler was the more evil of the two.
     
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    Iran (run by Mullahs) has said many many times that they want to kill the Jews. They proudly welcomed former KKK leader David Duke to a Holocaust denying conference. Also, who do you think wrote the following, Richard Dawkins?:
    Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

    Sounds like genocide to me. No better than Hitler.

    Religion also robs people of their belief in science, to a large degree...Hitler didn't do that, as evil as he was.
     
  25. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    According to the Bible the Jews were always committing genocides against other people. They have it coming.
     

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