How I became a 2A advocate

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  1. Maccabee

    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    Said the shill. YOU came to MY thread telling ME to go back where I came from because YOU don't like my ideology.
     
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    So if guns didn't exist there would be less gun deaths is your point?
     
  3. Regular Joe

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    You want to point at Chicago as being the fault of gun ownership? Chicago, and every other war zone drug infested Dem. controlled metropolis are obviously the result of unfettered political corruption and an utter failure of the local Gov. This doesn't only demonstrate the misuse of guns and freedom, but the miscarriage of society.
     
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    As for my support of the 2A...
    I was born in the 24th. Signal Battalion, in Augsburg, Germany.
    Before I could walk, I was riding around on Capt. Daddy's shoulders in the armory at Camp Williams, in Utah.
    I was there when he shot his first and only deer with a handgun, a Ruger .357 Blackhawk.
    He figured I knew the power of a handgun, and what it does at that point, so he gave me my first baby Beretta when I was 4.
    I got my first 10/.22 when I was 6, along with a Bearcat revolver as a sidearm. At 7, I got the .44 Mag. Deerstalker carbine. And so forth.
    I came up believing that a young man has got to ride well, shoot straight, and speak the truth.
     
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    same with me-my father was the national HS skeet champion during the WWII era and a varsity rifle shooter in college. When I was born he had given up competitive shooting (other than winning the skeet championship at one of the country clubs we belonged to) but he had become and avid hunter who hunted in Africa, England, Canada, South America, Hungary etc. My two brothers and I all hunted, all of us went on safari in Kenya-my youngest brother twice. I was the only one who became a serious competitive shooter (I still win state titles in shotgun events and archery) and my youngest brother-who lives in NYC is now a left-winger libertine elitist. I remember my Democrat mother (who was not anti hunting) rolling her eyes when my youngest brother started whining about hunting one of the last Christmas dinners we all were around to attend and then noting that he was "full of crap" since he was really happy to get to go to Kenya twice when I and my other brother only got to go once.

    when I was in grad school, I had a permit to carry and while I rarely did, one night I had the gun, two mopes tried to mug me and I shot one of them. people who want to ban guns are criminal enablers in my book and enemies of our constitution- a document I TWICE took an oath to uphold and defend
     
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    The gun's dont kill people, people kill people is imo a circular argument that does not assist or detract either side.

    It just depends where you want to draw the line.

    Was it the pulling of the trigger? The fear / unreasonable emotions of the shooter? Was it where the shooter shot at? was it the wound? the lack of blood flow? the lack of medical care? the body not being able to heal the damage before shut down? the gun manufacturer, if said gun was never made? the bullet manufacturer? the guy who digs the iron ore out of the ground? the man who first invented guns?


    You can point the finger at anyone if you like. Cheap slogans are for cheap thinkers.
     
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    I am enemy of your constitution?

    Did you take an oath to write veiled internet threats at people whom have a different point of view on a particular topic as you?

    For all your high and mighty preaching the above actions dont match the level of your preach.
     
  8. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When I was on the far left I was always staunchy pro-gun. These were my syndicalist days, so pretty f***in' leftist.

    Looks exactly the same in principle to drug use to me. I couldn't be hypocritical and support the legalization of one without the other.
     
  9. dagosa

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    Talk about uneducated on the topic ? Name one item you normally buy in a store open to the public that is not regulated. You are welcome to keep all your black powder, unregulated weapons that you want as the 2A indirectly ( arms not firearms) referred to. As technology improves, more regulation is required. Deal with it.

    The 2A allows for arms only to include black powder muzzle loaders.......interpretation by the Supreme Court allows for more. Interpretation changes and will as technology requires. The uneducated think the 2 A is absolute, probably because they are uneducated.
     
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    1993-2014 gun-related crime and gun related murder fell 55% while the number of guns increased by scored of millions.
    So much for your claim being "quite true".
     
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    Ridiculous. A gun cannot do a thing until picked up and used by a person. I've got a .45 sitting right here by my computer where it has sat all day, and it has done nothing. The little punk wont even talk to me.
     
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    You are irrelevant, no one has threatened you, veiled or contrarywise.....
     
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    Mine sits in a holster on my hip all day, most comforting as I go about my business in the Big City, lol.....
     
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    Just yesterday, two - not just one, but two- 'assault weapons' sat in the back of my SUV ALL DAY and did nothing.
    Either I have them well-trained or it isn't in their nature to run off and kill people.
     
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    Remember, one Assault weapon, one Pepper weapon !!!
     
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    Lucky you. I gotta keep mine locked up because it's black! Same with my confederate flag. That little skunk hates yankees!
     
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    Thats about as stupid as I have seen on this forum. You know as well as anyone that a gun doesnt pull its own trigger. A gun doesnt kill people unless a person uses it to kill someone.
     
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    Now who do you think you are bringing facts in here? ;)
     
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    Matches. Gasoline. Machetes. Baseball bats. Rat poison. Bolt cutters. Chainsaws. Handcuffs. Shovels. There's a long list of things that aren't regulated I could use.

    But again, anyone who will ignore the penalties for murder will slap their knee and roll on the floor laughing about your "regulations".

    Your black powder argument about the 2A is the height of uneducated, and quite frankly, unintelligent, arguments.

    I guess that means internet communication and phone calls aren't protected by the 1A, according to you.

    Do you think your arguments through or are you just reading them off your Bill Ayers talking points list?
     
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    Go onto a Home Depot.
    Hatchets, axes, picks, sledgehammers....

    An argument that the Court directly and rightly discarded as nonsense.

    If you do not feed the troll, the troll will go away.
     
  21. perdidochas

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    Stupid interpretation. I guess you also would say that the freedom of the press only applies to hand operated printing presses with movable type. After all, at the time the BOR was passed, there were no powered printing presses (much less copiers or word processors).
     
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    That is the truth, however, people like him prefer unarmed victims of crime.
     
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    ha
    Ha
    Please, tell me you never worked in retail. As a seller at a hardware stor, poisons are ALL heavily regulated and you always buy from a known distributor who is responsible for the ingredients. That's why the packages are sealed and you can't sell unsealed containers of poisons. Gasoline is highly regulated for safety for use at the pumps. It is regulated for octane....my goodness, how could you be so up uninformed...unless one cannot read.

    Tools are all packaged and or sealed or stamped the manufacturers label which is on display along with basic standards like the electrical requirements for any electric product from UL. This is why you seldom buy unregulated products. Regulation comes, not only from the govt., but for quality, listed testing agencies used by manufactures them selves and independent testers that agree to be regulate. The manufactures are regulated. Read owners manual's .

    Do you ever shop and read owners manual's for products......boy are you one uniformed shopper ha ha

    Black powder uneducated ? Guess you never read history any book. Please go to the public library to see what types of firearms were generally used in the 1700's. Please read also that "arms" does not limit the discussion to firearms. Knives and hatchets, pikes, and swords were arms AND SOME OF THEM WERE REGULATED TOO IN THE 1700's. Look up "frightener" as dicussed by Scalia.

    You think the Internet and your phone is not regulated. The manufacturer is highly regulated during construction. Look at the patents. They are all regulation requirements. The use for phone and frequencies you can use them for are all highly regulated. Try down loading and up loading cetain "types of material" and see how long it takes for a "regulator" to knock at your door.
     
  24. DoctorWho

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    Bull cookies, only money limited what Arms one could buy in 1700.......

    Merchant ships always had a full compliment of cannon and other weapons as a safeguard against Piracy on the high seas.
     
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    The problem with your thinking is that it isn't a circular argument, It's always been about people and not the inanimate object. History proves this inarguably, before guns there was killing both individually and in large masses, there is no line to draw...it's always been the intentions and evilness of humans and they have never cared what they use...it was the results.

    Cheap thinking leads to cheap opinions, eh?
     

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