How Mail-in Voting Works

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  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NPR did a study. Over a half million mail in votes were discounted in the 2020 primary elections. I have linked it at least twice.
     
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    I have never said it has to be by fraud.. A vote that is not counted is just as significant whether it is discounted by fraud or by accident. The result is the same. They were all mail in votes that were not counted.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, there have been a few reports, maybe a dozen at most. Not numerous and certainly not enough to sway election results. I think you worry too much.
     
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    NPR did a study. There were over a half million rejected ballots in the 2020 primaries.
     
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    They found nine ballots that a new, first-time, seasonal worker mistakenly threw away. Since the nine ballots had already been removed from their security sleeves/envelopes, they were crass enough to publicize that 7 of the ballots were Trump votes. The error has been remedied.

    This was not an attempt at fraud. It is being treated as an error, not a crime.
     
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    I’m talking about in cities already under gang control. It’s not at all far fetched if this method of voting becomes standard nationwide. There is way too much power at stake that could be taken too easily for it not to happen. Criminals and politicians will find a way to exploit people for power if given the chance. Neither type are good people.
     
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    it doesn’t matter at all that much fraud hasn’t happened yet. The POTENTIAL needs to be eliminated. There has to be literally zero chance or every election from here on out will be contested, and will tear this country more apart than it already is. Convenience is not an excuse for a lack of security in the system.
     
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    No but it was certainly human error ;)
     
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    Trump just knows the more people that vote, the less likely he wins
     
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    ROFLMAO now you have to parse your own quotes, why did you cut off the

    Third party groups handling ballots......no way Jose....not mine.
     
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    Not for even a microsecond did I say that third party groups handle ballots.

    I can explain the system, but cannot do anything about the reader's shortcomings in reading comprehension.
     
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    So I should deduce from that that the wholesale mailed ballots aren't a problem.
     
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    You had to parse your own words.........
     
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    Don't you need a witness in NC? A partner in crime so to speak?
     
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    It's a process that most states are already prepared to handle. I don't know what you mean by "wholesale" in this context.
     
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    Is there "literally zero chance" of fraud with in person voting?

    No election system in history has ever been 100% secure. That's an unrealistic expectation. And if you don't want the country torn apart by this election, stop supporting Trump. The doubt, confusion, and fear he is creating should sicken everyone. His declaration that he will not commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses should frighten everyone. He is creating the doubt over mail-in ballots because he knows that a lot more people will vote, and if that happens, he will lose. And you're helping him.
     
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    What cities are under gang control? Please provide links to prove that claim.

    Sheesh. Hyperbole much?
     
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    You know and I know that if the opportunity presents itself for easy manipulation of the vote, and this would be east manipulation, politicians will seek to exploit it. Corruption will get even worse than it is by far. Its not hyperbole at all. We have the secret ballots in secure locations for exactly that reason. I think you are sheltered and naive in your thinking.
     
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    Wholesale means mailing ballots to people or addresses that didn't request them.
     
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    Please link to evidence that the mail-in ballot systems make it easy to manipulate the vote. Trump and his supporters keep harping on this but there is no proof. Trump doesn't even understand that ballots are only mailed to registered voters. And voting by mail is secret. That's been explained to you previously on this thread.

    You didn't bother to answer my question about these "gangs" that are running our cities. I'm not surprised. If that wasn't hyperbole, nothing is.

    Calling me naive was rude and uncalled for.
     
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    Again, as explained many times previously, mail-in ballots are not sent to randon people or addresses. They are mailed out to registered voters only.
     
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    Democrats are pushing this for the sake of those who don't want to risk getting the virus.
     
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    Please explain this lack of oversight in Colorado. Can you prove that claim?

    Also, fyi, in Colorado, one does not have to use the USPS. There are ballot drop boxes all over the state. With some of these, you don't even have to get out of your car.
     
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    evidence? Just examine the process! Is there a point in time where the voter has a ballot and has not checked off who he has voted for and is in an area not being supervised by officials? If the answer to that is yes, which it is, then it is NOT secure and can be manipulated. What evidence do you need beyond the obvious?

    Are you saying there are not gangs controlling areas in cities? I don’t think there is any hyperbole in saying there is.

    And I apologize for calling you naive. It was uncalled for. I get excited sometimes, lol.
     
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