How many members would like a firearms discussion area

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Would you like a firearms discussion area

  1. YES

    85.8%
  2. NO

    14.2%
  1. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    That you don't care that they corrupt the political system describes your nature.
     
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    More accusations devoid of proof. At present they are no more a corruption of the united states political system, than any other advocacy group currently operating within the country.

    Perhaps the pertinent question is, which political advocacy groups are not currently corrupting the united states political system?
     
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    A post truther cannot do truth. They can only whine.
     
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    So then. We are dealing with yet another one of those individuals who subscribes to the mentality that the accusation of wrongdoing is the evidence and proof of the wrongdoing?
     
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    Just stop whining!
     
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    The only whining that is being demonstrated in this discussion is that on the part of yourself, hiding behind those who hide behind their academic credentials and pretending that they amount to something, when in reality they do not. Their findings do not coincide with how the real world works.
     
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    Spare me.

    Like to find guilt by association, do you? Slap everyone within a 3 mile radius with the same brush?

    She might very well be an "unregistered agent for Russia. She might have had interactions with the NRA. That does not make the NRA culpable. Or are you too driven by your hate to acknowledge that reality?
     
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    Your ignorance of reality is noted.
     
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    As usual, you have no response to the truth except an ad hominem attack. Leaders of the NRA have been wined and dined in Russia for years. They have colluded to violate our sovereignty. Seems like you're fine wth that.
     
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    How is being wined and dined collusion and lobbying against the Democratic candidate and for the Republican candidate an attempt to violate sovereignty?
     
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    Your entire position is an ad hominem attack.

    The "leaders of the NRA" have been all over the world supporting firearms rights causes. They are about supporting Freedom and Constitutional rights, period. Sometimes I think they're too willing to compromise, and they have, at times, acted more in the interest of cementing their own power than protecting the Constitution. Claiming they "colluded to violate our sovereignty" is utter nonsense; pure propaganda manufactured by people tired of getting their political butts handed to them by the NRA.

    Everyone knows if Trump's Supreme Court Justice is confirmed ( a near certainty) the willingness of the courts to take on more 2nd Amendment cases - and to rule along more Originalist lines - then a lot of restrictive laws are going to be stricken from the books and gun control groups will have an uphill fight just to survive. So, the left is pointing and shrieking about every minuscule factoid that might be twisted into "proof" of collusion in hopes of preventing that from happening.
     
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    That’s laughable. They have NEVER gone to dictatorships before where there are NO GUN RIGHTS that Putin doesn’t give minimal allowances for hunting. All guns other wise are registered and nothing will change. The gun rights activists are set up solely to attract the NRA, feed them money and buy influence into the GOP, the next biggest political farce. Try demonstrating in Russia for more gun rights. You stand a good chance of being arrested .
    Putin is a dictator. . They aren’t a democracy and they have NO RIGHTS other then selling guns to the US that few of their own citizens can own. Go ahead. Pay your dues to the criminal NRA which willingly accepts bribe money from Putin.
    You do know why he’s the richest man in the world in a country whose economy is little bigger then South Korea ? He nationalizes everything. It’s what you lackies fear here and then you follow a fool in bed with the NRA and a dictator. What a joke.
     
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    You do know what sovereignty is ? It’s the right of the people to governing ones self. You think a dictatorship is going to launder money through the NRA to be payed to Trump who, like other republicans, makes a habit of violating voting rights, taking away peoples healthcare and promoting recessions EVERY TIME they are in office. Guarantee your monies will go to promote the next recession.....try buying more guns when you’re out of a job.
     
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    Much of nothing, here. The NRA always supports the Republicans and never supports the anti-gun Democrats.
     
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    The NRA must really be proud to have white supremicist, nazi wannabes and have added Russian agents. American groups interested in protecting the constitution don’t launder Russian money and peddle Russian ideals, unless you guys beleive in them.
     
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    Is it being stated by yourself, that if the nation of Russia had not interfered, the NRA would have endorsed Hillary Clinton for president of the united states?
     
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    “They are about supporting Freedom andConstitutional rights, period. “

    Ha ha ...
    This is laughable ! There are no rights in Russia. It’s a dictatorship. The NRA is after one thing....money to support gun makers here and in Russia and everyother nation that has gun makers who can only sell their guns in the US. The influence of Russian whores and oligarchs has infiltrated the NRA as much as they have Trump’s Govt.
     
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    I guess you don’t know how to use the quote feature and are now just making crappola up. “ it is being stated by yourself” that you have nothing to say that makes any sense. You still haven’t read the indictments. How many does Hillary’s crew have after six years of republican investigations of emails and Benghazi ?
    Hold on to your hats as the GOP with help from the criminal NRA work to take away your Medicare and social security. But, when guys like you can’t afford their cancer treatment and their insurance companies cancel their insurance, you’ll still have your guns to keep you warm.
    You gun nuts have priorities that are all screwed up.
     
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    Answer the question as it was presented to yourself, rather than going off on a tangent about an unrelated subject.

    Is it being stated by yourself, that if the nation of Russia had not interfered, the NRA would have endorsed Hillary Clinton for president of the united states?
     
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    And if they hadn't created the NRA-ILA in response to groups like Handguns, Inc, our rights would have been eroded.
     
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    So, in conclusion, you're so blinded by hate and outrage you are beyond rational discourse.

    If the "fool" you speak of is Trump, well, I don't follow him. Didn't vote for him. Don't like him. I don't give money to the NRA either way; I find them too willing to compromise, and I tend to contribute what I can afford to the Gun Owners of America (GOA).

    That said, I read every word of your sputtering and raving and poo-flinging diatribe, and just shake my head. You are so far off into the weeds you're about to come back in the other side.
     
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    Like the bloke from 9:30 onwards?

     
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    This video Is one of illustrating factors of why children periodically unintentionally shoot some one.
    While the topic might can be cast as humorous, I am of the school of thought that doesn’t see humor in the topic of firearms and I am not of the school that characterizes shooting firearms as a fun thing despite being a staunch gun rights advocate most of my 60+ years of life.
     
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    That these pro gunners were so easily manipulated into saying ridiculous things demonstrates one thing: how their ideology has made them stupid.
     
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    I know you're sneering with contempt and derision. I just roll my eyes at Sacha Baron Cohen's nonsense. He's not funny or insightful in the least.

    That said, my grandfather was a career police officer who believed kids needed to be "gun-proofed". He started training me to coexist safely with firearms from the time I was 4 years old, taking advantage of a child's ability to learn and absorb information to enable me to be safe in a house that had loaded firearms in it. Those lessons have stood me in good stead throughout my life.
     

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