How Mueller’s First Year Compares To Watergate, Iran-Contra And Whitewater

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  1. Bluesguy

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    What do you think you are trying to accomplish with your attempt to equate all those investigations as if one is equal to the others.
     
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    Are any of these heinous "demleft" crimes ever going to be prosecuted by the Trump DOJ or are they just more figments of your fertile, Alex Jones enhanced mind? You been slingin' these turds for over a year now and still no arrests. I guess after 25-30 years of guys like you accusing Hillary Clinton of everything from murdering Vince Foster to running a pizza parlor that sliced up babies for toppings and everything in between, you and your ilk have absolutely NO credibility and are the laughing stock of the world.
     
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    The important distinction is that the Trump Justice Department Special Counsel's fledgling, albeit already very productive, investigation is of a verified attack by a hostile foreign power upon the United States. To whatever extent Americans, including politicians and their operatives, were complicit in such an attack is secondary, and of far less consequence.

    Obviously, it is essential to our national interest that the truth be exposed, and any petty, partisan political concerns not be allowed to sabotage that patriotic mandate. There are those who fear a thorough investigation would not be exculpatory for individuals they venerate, and are desperate to malign and discredit any and all who seek the truth.
     
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    Is there software program that I can buy that translate the way normal people speak, into this? :applause:
     
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    They are not equal champ, but certainly similar and anyone who is squealing that this investigation is taking too long is a friggin' moron. It took six years to wrap up the White Water-Castle Grande- Lewinsky deal which was a politically motivated action designed to get Clinton. It all stemmed from a savings and loan deal hatched by some backwater hicks in Arkansas and a two bit land deal that nobody made any money on. Maybe it's just me, but I think that this investigation is a lot more important than that screwy, billion dollar turd hunt. Seems that Russian mobsters who are buddies with Putin are also buddies with some of Trump's associates. This is a REAL national security issue. Trump and all of the imbeciles who blindly follow his every word need to shut the f@&k up and let Mr. Mueller do his job.
     
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    Maybe you should buy a dictionary and learn to speak and understand English. I thought you guys were real big on that.
     
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    I might have to disagree with the 2nd part of your premise, depending on the extent of the American involvement... if low or 'useful idiots', then you are right... if, however, American involvement was higher, I think that will turn out to be way worse... I HOPE it's the former...
     
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    The Trump Justice Department Special Counsel's investigation is the only hope of ascertaining the truth. The extent and nature of the hostile foreign power's attack, and whether any Americans were involved, wittingly or unwittingly, will be determined only by whatever facts Trump's Special Counsel can establish. Speculation as to whom it may implicate or exonerate may be based upon fears or hopes, but the mission is vital to US security, and must not be aborted due to partisan interests.

    There are those who much prefer accommodating lies to inconvenient truths, but the truth must be sought nonetheless.

    Trump insider
    Steve Bannon labeled the clandestine meeting by Trump operatives (about which they lied) with Putin's at Trump Tower as "treasonous", but I believe his characterization was, at best, premature.

    Such speculation is of no value.

    Justice can only be attained by relentlessly pursuing and exposing the truth.


     
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    He was a liar, especially about that.

    That was based on investigating a KNOWN CRIME.

    The Mueller Witch Hunt is not. It is a travesty, based on a false narrative created and spread by Obama Swamp operatives illegally placed in the Trump Campaign...without a SHRED of proof of any kind of "collusion" there.

    I mean, it's not like we caught the Trump campaign giving their law firm $millions to hire a FOREIGN AGENT to BUY BULLCRAP DIRT on the OPPOSITION CAMPAIGN FROM THE RUSSIANS, is it?

    And then using the COMPLETE LIES to get a FISA warrant to spy on their opposition, did they?

    All this after placing SPIES in the opposition campaign, to INITIATE the false narrative, and pretend it "originated with the opposition campaign"...?

    No, we sure didn't catch the Trump campaign doing ANY OF THAT did we?

    I mean, that would be conspiracy to interfere in the election, conspiracy to illegally spy on the opposition party, conspiracy to mislead the FISA court, outright SEDTION....who would dare do any of that?
     
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    You thought correctly. This poster, for an instance, can fluently curse you in a dozen different languages... you? :juggle:
     
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    "indictments and guilty pleas are completely made up"? Reminds me a lot that one can make themselves believe whatever in justification of their belief.
     
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    Limited to only "fluent curses"? I see.
     
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    They were compeltely different circumstances and issues and trying to assert that Mueller's investigation should last 4 years because another investigation lasted four years is utter folly.

    First of all there was no Whitewater-Castle Grande-Lewinsky deal. Whitewater-Castle Grande and the Paula Jones-Lewinsky matter were two totally different issues and one did not lead to the other.


    Whitewater-Castle Grande were in response to a criminal referral by the RTC to President Clinton who ordered the Special Counsel law be enacted and a Special Counsel be named.
    Paula Jones-Lewinsky was in response to prima facie evidence of perjury and obstruction of justice that was confirmed within several days by the FBI and resolved rather shortly by the OSC and turned over to the Congress as required by the law when the SCO found evidence of a crime.

    DUH yes the lost money and defrauded the investors and then the federal government thus the criminal referral by the Resolution Trust Corporation which was the office that investigated all the savings and loan failures. Sorry you don't get to marginalize it.

    So where is the criminal referral against Trump that instigated Mueller's investigation?

    Here is what we have, we have the FBI and the CIA using a mole to plant a story with a low level volunteer in the Trump campaign about Clinton emails, then they send the Australian Ambassador to ply him with liquor and gets him to repeat the planted story and the Ambassador tells the FBI he was told the planted story so they sought a FISA warrant against this private US citizen.

    Somebody need to go to jail.
     
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    Still revising history & facts?
     
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    Feel free to refute anything I just posted.
     
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    You're asking for the impossible.
     
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    No need, your historical inaccuracies and historical revisionist MO is well know on forum and has been exposed as nonsense more times by multiple posters than can be easily counted.
     
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    No memes?
     
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    I'm sure no one noticed your usual COMPLETE INABILITY to address the points raised.

    We like it...it's funny (for a little while) like watching this:

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    Ahhh, the memes deflection.
     
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    Well stated, but you did leave out that the Australian Ambassador was also known to have donated money to the Hillary Clinton campaign. He was therefore hardly a politically neutral participant.
     
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    ThorInc said:
    Still revising history & facts?

    Bluesguy said:
    Feel free to refute anything I just posted.

    ThorInc said:
    No need, your historical inaccuracies and historical revisionist MO is well know on forum and has been exposed as nonsense more times by multiple posters than can be easily counted.


    Accuses everyone else of "deflection".

    good fellas laugh.jpg
     
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    Yet I am correct.........if you can follow the forum and remember how many times the poster I responded to has be exposed for revising history.....so many times is has become tedious & quick dismissal is appropriate. Now you can post more nonsense & spam the forum with memes.
     
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