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How NATO leaders used quiet maneuvers and 'adroit flattery' to keep Trump from blowing up the allian

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Pro_Line_FL, Dec 2, 2021.

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    35% of what .. Why you afraid to give a coherent definition of "Destroyed" .. DDDDDDayton.
     
    Giftedone, Dec 11, 2021
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  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Trumpers slavishly imitate and emulate their god all the time. Say anything good about the Bronze Baby and watch them preen. This is possibly the most disgusting thing Trumpers do to my observation. They fawn, and beside just being repugnant on its own fawning is about the most Un-American thing there really is.
     
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  3. Dayton3

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    Not all Trump supporters fawn over Donald Trump. I don't. I loathe the man
     
    Dayton3, Dec 11, 2021
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  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Russia won't. Most of their scenarios to invade the US have them coming through Alaska and down through Canada. There are DoD specified highways from Nome right down to Seattle. Alaska is our soft overbelly :rolleyes:
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Dec 11, 2021
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  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    That's another strange thing about Trumpers and one of their few saving graces. Some of them take pride in despising the man but liking his policies. I guess you could do that but you're still making him a caudillo and Americans don't like caudillos
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Dec 11, 2021
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    They are way down on the threat list now. This isn't 1981.
     
    Lil Mike, Dec 11, 2021
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  7. Dayton3

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    What makes you think the U.S. wouldn't come to the aid militarily of its oldest ally?
     
    Dayton3, Dec 11, 2021
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  8. Dayton3

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    they've never had a warlord so how do you know?
     
    Dayton3, Dec 11, 2021
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  9. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I told you .. we will be far too busy hiding - trying to avoid the Nuclear Holocaust - which is why Russia is not attacking in the first place .. and why putting troops there is pointless.
     
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  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    We've had warlords, Indeed one of the Presidents I most admire, Andrew Jackson was a warlord. (And PLEASE don't think I am even close to comparing him to Trump, for his ghost will horsewhip me in the street for that and I will heartily deserve it.)
     
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    Why would we be worried about a nuclear holocaust? You think the Russians are going to start a nuclear conflict just because the U.S. assists a long time ally?

    Don't be ridiculous.
     
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    How was President Jackson a "warlord"?
     
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  13. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't say any of that made up nonsense -- need to stop projecting your fantasies onto others. "Why do you think the moon is made of green cheese" ... aeehhh uuhhhh eahhhh dudhhh DDDDayton .. Toddle off now .. :)
     
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    Ukraine is in real danger of being invaded by another 170,000 Russian 'volunteers' and their
    BUK missiles. The Baltic states are constantly threatened. Former Soviet neighbors are all
    feeling the Russian pinch. And until this drags NATO, America into the frey you will not see a
    single 'peace movement' acivist in any Western city - even if a hundred million people died.
     
    Poohbear, Dec 11, 2021
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed Ukraine is in real danger. Also agree that NATO is not going to do anything to help Ukraine in any significant military way.
     
    Giftedone, Dec 11, 2021
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  16. Dayton3

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    You're the one known for making stuff up on this forum.
     
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    Right ... just accuse the other of what you just did .. thats the ticket... now Toddle off .. DDDDDDayton :)
     
    Giftedone, Dec 11, 2021
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  18. Dayton3

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    No need for me to listen to the likes of you.
     
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  19. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    How was he NOT? His first career was military. His greatest victory literally saved America and he followed it with 30 years of Indian Wars, (Most of which saw him allied with one tribe or another and in the end he royally screwed them all, the main reason why many casinos don't have twenties.)

    Caudillo doesn't mean Warlord anyway (**** dictionaries). The literal translation is "Man on Horseback". They're these sort of flashy strongmen who rule more by slap and dash than political science and who are sometimes overthrown only to come back more than once. In Latin America, their real home, they're very military and seem to wear the uniform in the shower but the tradition is that they're often not that good as generals though they are clever politician/soldiers by definition.

    Trump would dearly love to be one but he's just not smart enough.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Dec 12, 2021
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    Giftedone - you don't have to be rude. It weakens your argument.
    I have a friend who screams at me when I defend Covid vaccines-
    she thinks she's on top of the argument by doing this.
     
    Poohbear, Dec 12, 2021
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes DD ... you must put hands over ears, eyes, mouth , nose .. and any other orifice that might let the bad news in.
     
    Giftedone, Dec 12, 2021
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats the problem .. Weakens "What" argument .. any semblence of an argument had left the building long ago.. the level of worthlessness truly lower than low .. .. that said .. you have a point.
     
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  23. Dayton3

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    That's true of most American presidents. And Jackson wasn't in the military during the bulk of the Indian Wars.
     
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  24. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Sorry. I must be confused. What Indian Wars are you talking about?
     
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  25. Dayton3

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    The ones you referred to in post #144.
     
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