How Obama Caused ISIS

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  1. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By Ira Strauss
    08/27/2014

    The Syria policy of the Obama administration is the main reason for the growth of the Islamic State (or ISIS) – and with it, for the current crisis in Iraq, and for a greatly increased danger of terrorism in Europe and America.

    Administration policy has fanned the rebellion in Syria and kept it going for three full years, while doing nothing to bring it to a successful close. Sometimes the administration has explicitly tried to keep the rebels in a stalemate with Assad; Secretary of State Kerry said that it was his policy to do just that, in order to promote negotiations and “peace.” The result, so obvious as to make that statement a shameless Orwellianism, has been to keep the war dragging on.

    This has provided the hothouse for the growth of the extremist Islamic State. In due course, it spilled over from Syria into Iraq, and it has issued threats against the American homeland. The Obama-Kerry policy has also made for the more than 190,000 deaths in Syria, 500,000 wounded, and 8 million refugees (more than 2 million abroad, 6 million inside Syria) — this, out of a population of about 22 million.

    It is hard to imagine a policy more irresponsible, or worse from a moral standpoint. Yet it has been the long-standing policy of Obama and Kerry — and it was Secretary of State Clinton’s, too, until her last weeks in office, when she finally seemed to be getting serious, only to have her new plans thrown out by Kerry.


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    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/386354/how-obama-caused-isis-ira-straus

    Under the direction of the Obama and his administration was found to be shipping weapons including portable SAMs to Syrian rebels (terrorists) through Turkey. The death of Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans exposed this on 9/11/11. But hey, that was glossed over. However, Obama's efforts gave al Qaeda/ISIS the means to expand in Syria and now Iraq. One has to question the motives of Obama and his administration.
     
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    Ira Strauss is an "expert" on Russia and something he calls "Media West".
     
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    "One" questions Obama's motives by starting 3 or 4 anti-Obama threads a day.

    In the 2012 election, the Syrian Civil War was a topic- and what was Mitt Romney's position?

    Mr. Romney has said outright “the United States should work with partners to organize and arm Syrian opposition groups,”

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/15/obama-vs-romney-on-syria-policy/#ixzz3BbwE24TJ

    Hmmm that sounds familiar- basically Romney said "we will do the same thing, but we will just do it better"

    more from that same 2012 article:

    t the same time, the administration fears that providing direct aid to rebels could mean military equipment ends up in the hands of truly unsavory groups.

    Mrs. Clinton made reference to such concerns Monday during a visit to Turkey, where unease is mounting over the activities in Syria of the Kurdish Workers’ Party — also known as the PKK — which the United States, Turkey, the European Union and NATO list as a terrorist organization.

    “We worry about terrorists, PKK, al Qaeda and others taking advantage of the legitimate fight of the Syrian people for their freedom to use Syria and to promote their own agendas, and even to perhaps find footholds to launch attacks against others,” Mrs. Clinton said.

    The Romney campaign says those fears are a poor excuse to avoid leadership and argues that the presence of Islamists and terrorists in the anti-Assad coalition is exactly why the U.S. must try to boost other actors.

    “Complaining that there happen to be bad actors in the opposition is not an excuse for why we’re not helping the good actors,” said Dan Senor, a Romney campaign adviser and adjunct senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.

    I don't remember anyone questioning Romney's motives.

    And of course John McCain was a big supporter of arms to Syrian rebels....

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/18/mccain-rejects-report-claiming-syrian-rebels-are-largely-jihadis/

    Is "one" questioning McCain's motives also?

    This is just another Obama hit piece.
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gun Running from Libya to Syria: the 'Al-Entisar,' Ambassador Stevens, Ali Sait Akin & the IHH​


    The news service Reuters reported(http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/01/us-usa-syria-obama-order-idUSBRE8701OK20120801) that Obama signed an intelligence finding in early 2012 authorizing U.S. support for the Syrian rebels. And according to the New York Times(http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/w...d-in-steering-arms-to-syrian-rebels.html?_r=0), CIA operatives were on the Turkish-Syrian border this summer helping to steer weapons deliveries to selected Syrian rebel groups, most of them “hard-line Islamic jihadists.” One of those jihadists was Abdelhakim Belhadj, head of the Tripoli Military Council and the former leader of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, according to a military official working with Mr Belhadjto quoted by Daily Telegraph(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...st-met-Free-Syrian-Army-opposition-group.html), "met with Free Syrian Army leaders in Istanbul and on the border with Turkey. "Mustafa Abdul Jalil [the interim Libyan president] sent him there," he said in November 2011.

    Abdelhakim Belhadj’s contact with the Syrian Free Army was apparently part of a Lybian delegation to Turkey offering arms and fighters to the Turkish-backed Syrian jihadists. "The Daily Telegraph on Saturday [November 26 2011](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...st-met-Free-Syrian-Army-opposition-group.html) revealed that the new Libyan authorities had offered money and weapons to the growing insurgency against Bashar al-Assad. Mr Belhaj also discussed sending Libyan fighters to train troops, [our] source said. Having ousted one dictator, triumphant young men, still filled with revolutionary fervour, are keen to topple the next. The commanders of armed gangs still roaming Tripoli's streets said yesterday that "hundreds" of fighters wanted to wage war against the Assad regime." So, we have the United-States, Libya and Turkey working together with and through Al-Qaeda-linked jihadists like Abdelhakim Belhadj to get weapons into the hands of Syrian jihadists, known to be dominated by Al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood.

    **{Snip}**
    Why was Turkey`s Ambassador in Libya the last person that met with our Ambassador there, just hours before he & 3 other Americans were murdered by Libyan terrorists?
    http://www.businessinsider.com/us-syria-heavy-weapons-jihadists-2012-10

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    Huge weapons stockpiles went missing in Libya after the killing of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, referring to photographs of empty boxes of SAM-7S and confirmations by Libyan officials that "more than 5,000 of the missiles had vanished.
    http://www.sana.sy/en/

    I guess that the above information is all a lie according to you despite the fact that Obama has supported the Muslim Brotherhood(MB) a known terrorist group supporting al Qaeda/ISIL. Then there's the admission by Joe Biden in the arming the MB. Guess this information just happened to get by you during the Benghazi kerfuffle. The uninformed just manage to want to stay uniformed. Is it by design or their mental capacity?
     
  5. SFJEFF

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    All a lie? There might be something in there that is not a lie.

    But not one of your 'claims' changes anything that I said:

    "One" questions Obama's motives by starting 3 or 4 anti-Obama threads a day.

    In the 2012 election, the Syrian Civil War was a topic- and what was Mitt Romney's position?

    Mr. Romney has said outright “the United States should work with partners to organize and arm Syrian opposition groups,”

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz3BbwE24TJ

    Hmmm that sounds familiar- basically Romney said "we will do the same thing, but we will just do it better"

    more from that same 2012 article:

    t the same time, the administration fears that providing direct aid to rebels could mean military equipment ends up in the hands of truly unsavory groups.

    Mrs. Clinton made reference to such concerns Monday during a visit to Turkey, where unease is mounting over the activities in Syria of the Kurdish Workers’ Party — also known as the PKK — which the United States, Turkey, the European Union and NATO list as a terrorist organization.

    “We worry about terrorists, PKK, al Qaeda and others taking advantage of the legitimate fight of the Syrian people for their freedom to use Syria and to promote their own agendas, and even to perhaps find footholds to launch attacks against others,” Mrs. Clinton said.

    The Romney campaign says those fears are a poor excuse to avoid leadership and argues that the presence of Islamists and terrorists in the anti-Assad coalition is exactly why the U.S. must try to boost other actors.
    “Complaining that there happen to be bad actors in the opposition is not an excuse for why we’re not helping the good actors,” said Dan Senor, a Romney campaign adviser and adjunct senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.

    I don't remember anyone questioning Romney's motives.

    And of course John McCain was a big supporter of arms to Syrian rebels....

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/18/mc...rgely-jihadis/

    Is "one" questioning McCain's motives also?

    This is just another Obama hit piece.
     

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