How Putin uses missile defense in Europe to distract Russian voters

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  1. sharik

    sharik Banned

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    in denial aren't you? but who are you? whom are you covering up and why?
     
  2. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are only showing your inability to understand the complexity of the world again.
    I work for a secret organisation that is covering up Europe's takeover of Eastern Europe. We suppress information from all the Eastern Europeans that in reality wants to join mother Russia and not the EU.

    Go away.... You are a waste of time.
     
  3. sharik

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    i didn't even pretend trying to, but obviously you do, you buffoon.
     
  4. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Honestly... Only a buffoon would ask those questions about me or think there is a Europe/USA war against the British monarchy.
    Wherever you are getting your information... Change them.

    I have better things to do than entertain your delusions and b-movie conspiracies.
     
  5. Destroyer of illusions

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    A very accurate observation.
     
  6. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    Lol...no exaggeration or generalisation here..just a simple fact..russkies seem to enjoy the subjugation they receive..
     
  7. Woogs

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    Good thing you're not holding your breath, 'cause it ain't happening.

    Why did you throw that red herring about Putin and his buddies in a thread about NATO's encroachment?

    The fact is that Putin cannot ignore what is plain for all to see. What would the average Russian think if he did? They've seen NATO parade within a couple hundred yards of their border with Estonia.

    I don't think it's a threat simply because of the ineptitude of NATO. This is all an exercise to get more US made weapons sold. In other words, a scam.

    Putin knows this, too, I am sure, but he can't just ignore it because it could be dangerous. So he has to respond. He won't break the bank doing that so too bad, the pipe dream isn't happening.

    What I would have liked to see him do is line up a few thousands Spetsnaz on the border with the Baltic states, do an about-face and all at once drop trou and moon NATO!! THAT is the response they deserve and guaranteed he would have 100% support from the Russian people!!! :)

     
  8. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the Russians enjoyed subjugation Vladimir Putin wouldn't be president, it would be someone like Yeltsin who bowed to Washington's interests to the detriment of the Russian people.

    Maybe you should read up on history. That way you wouldn't say things so foolishly, and realize the sacrifices Russians made to maintain their independence throughout history, whether it be from the Pope or from neighbors like Sweden, Poland, and Germany. They all wanted to expand eastwards and were stopped by the Russians...and this is why their neighboring nations carry a historical resentment which has nothing to do with the Soviet Union ...something which in itself was an internationalist concept that was an outcome of the Enlightenment, and imposed on the Russian people mostly by outsiders.

    Americans should realize the limitations of their historians and their westernized viewpoints of events... which are seen through the narrow prism of their own cultural standards, and which are nothing more than a projection of themselves and their own actions and desires.

    In contrast Russia sees itself, and rightfully so, as having been under attack by the West in one way or another every 20 years. Sometimes by armies, foreign philosophies like Marxism or economic attacks... something which has been ongoing since the break up of the Soviet Union.

     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It would be well deserved, hee, hee, hee!:


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    Putin will just end up more and more isolated. Then if he decides to do something stupid, the world will come down on him. It's 100% how this plays out for him
     
  11. sharik

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    what subjugation, care to specify?
     
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    perhaps you should read some history also..I see lot of your postings are foolish..sure Russia made sacrifices..you should also look at others perspective in that region also that suffered under the Soviet(russian)heel..but somehow that probably doesn't register on you ..
     
  13. AboveAlpha

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    Come on.

    111 Russian's own over 35% of all Russian wealth!!

    That is insane!!

    AA
     
  14. AboveAlpha

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    We have no desire to be in control of Russia.

    We just want trade and peace and that is it.

    AA
     
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    Please.

    Can you honestly say that a few U.S. AMB/ASAT's based in Poland and a few NATO troops are an actual threat to Russian security or Russia's Nuclear Deterrent???

    COME ON!!!

    AA

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    Russia would have a whole lot of NUKES aimed at it right now based in the Ukraine, Georgia...etc...if it were not for the U.S.!!!!

    We have done everything we could to help the Russian economy and help stabilize Russia as a stable Russia is in our best interests.

    AA
     
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    Reading is fundamental. I never said I thought it was an actual threat nor that Putin did. What I said was that everyone in Russia saw the NATO exercise just a couple hundred yards from their border. It was even advertised as being there to stop Russia.

    Under those circumstances, do you really think Putin could have done NOTHING??? That's not even mentioning the missiles in Poland and Romania that are there to protect Europe from "Iran" (LMAO).

    Just admit it is all designed to goad Putin into doing something foolish, which he will not do, and to enrich the MIC.
     
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    What is being done is a warning to Putin to knock off the threats.

    Putin keeps threatening his neighbors and the ONLY reason he is doing this is to create a distraction.

    We are talking about a DICTATOR who has purposely changed the Russian constitution to keep himself in power till he dies.

    We are talking about a man who has seized control of the media.

    We are talking about a man who along with 110 of his buddies is stealing the wealth of Russia.

    And those U.S. AMB/ASAT's are there specifically to protect Europe and parts of Russia against a rogue nuclear missile launch.

    YOU TELL ME...how just a few of those U.S. AMB/ASAT's in any way is a threat to Russian nuclear deterrence??

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    Lol .... you start off admitting it's a warning and finish up saying it's not a threat.

    Get back to me when you've got it sorted out in your own mind.

     
  19. AboveAlpha

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    A warning is not necessarily a threat.

    And those AMB/ASAT's and NATO troops are a warning....but they certainly are not a threat to Russian security.

    What I find funny is those members who actually think NATO and the U.S. would invade Russia.

    We wouldn't.

    But we would defend against a Russian invasion of European nations.

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  20. Woogs

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    So now the missiles ARE a warning to Russia. But you just said they were there to help protect Europe and RUSSIA from a rogue strike.

    No need to get whiplash over this. Relax. Putin is laughing just as I am.

    Keep spending money to protect a bunch of paranoid countries from an imaginary threat. Raytheon thanks you.

     
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    The troops are a warning.

    The missiles were already planned.

    We all need those missiles there including Russia.

    The U.S. is the only nation capable of downing an ICBM.

    AA
     
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    What about the Russians? Are they capable of downing an ICBM?
     
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    Numbers don't matter, he will just throw words like "elites" and "west" like the toddlers wind up doll he is.

    Just keeps on pulling that same string


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    Of course, and AA specifically said that earlier if you are able to read


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  25. sharik

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    tell that to your wife.

    that is not.

    as if you love Russia more when it was ruled by Stalin who had no money at all.

    like i said, you do want control Russia.
     

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