How the Trump administration failed to protect America, a chronicle of missed opportunities, denials

Do you agree with that opening post on that reddit thread?

 

It was devised in 2016, Obama's final year. I'm just making the point that it too his administration 7 years to get onto it, but I acknowledge that it exists, but not necessarily because Obama himself thought that it was important, given that he doesn't know the first thing about pandemics - like Trump.

 

dismantle

take (a machine or structure) to pieces.

 

Yeah, Trump's an idiot, but what do these comments have to do with the pandemic?

Are you saying that he should have dealt with the demonstrations in a certain way?

 

He's certainly a "boob", no question about that - but he is no more incompetent than the average politician.

One of WHAT for Obama? 20k of WHAT for Trump?

 

He lied about it in you're opinion.

 

You think that it was a CDC team? It was NSC!

 

Yup, because I know the definition of the word, and he lied.
He’s a liar, not only this time but many times before....trump is a liar, about 20k Times. Yup, no doubt about it. I bet Trump is tweeting lies now.

 

Sure, keep telling yourself that...with no reference

 

So you meant to deceive us by telling a whopper ....it wasn’t 5 minutes, it was Obama’s final year. Would you like me to check the copyright date ?
So there is another deception.
Care tell another big whopper ?
I know you meant to deceive cause you didn’t give a reference.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/26/1931542/-Here-s-the-Pandemic-Playbook-That-Trump-Ignored

https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...ra-nsc-pandemic-prep-document-politico-2020-3

 

I did not lie to you.
I even stated it was a plan used by other presidents including Bush.
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=103908247

Trump chose to sit on his arse for months while Rome burned and more people became infected because in his words, testing and Tracking is too hard.

 

No, it was reprinted from the plan used by both Bush and Obama in both their pandemic plans. It was NOT new material. I was clear that is handed down from one president to another. Real presidents, unlike Trump. Try to do their job. Trump is a buffoon .

 

That means it still existed. Read on. Dismantling makes an agency non functional. That is Trumps intent like all dictators.
Now say thanks for the lesson.

 

This is wrong again. The Obama admin used it from day one to develope his plan as did Bush......it didnot take seven years. It’s what real presidents do during transition. They do their job. You say Obama knew nothing about Pandemics himself ? That is a totally dilusional thing to say. Obama knew more in Jr. High then trump ever will.
Seriously, Obama was a genius compared to Trump...maybe you never heard about pandemics ? Seriously, it’s a term you learn in HS biology. Is this new to you ?

 

No, I mean they WILL always happen. Increasingly, as a matter of fact.

Thank globalism for that.

 

Nationwide complete lockdown, New Zealand style.

 

So you would've supported him taking over the states to control the recent rioting?

 

Well I mean certainly after this one, the sort of actions that the Trump administration took will be totally unacceptable from now on for future administrations. At least for as long as China continue the way that they are - given that they have managed to unleash two deadly virus resulting in an epidemic and a pandemic within 18 years. I guess we have 2038 to look forward to!

 

AND Trump. I didn't single out Obama.

I said that Obama and Trump don't know anything about 'pandemics.' I did NOT say that they didn't know anything about the WORD 'pandemic.'

 

And you think that the Trump admin didn't have anything to replace it?

 

When did I say that you lied to me? I said that it's you're opinion that McConnell lied.

What are you saying that Trump should have done that he didn't?

 

He should have IMMEDIATELY instituted a complete lockdown, social distancing, and widespread testing with contact tracing. He should have immediately been distributing free N95 masks to everyone and had anyone not wearing some sort of face-covering subject to a fine within a week. All hospitals should have had adequate ventilators etc on hand. None of these measures were unconstitutional, impossible, or even especially difficult or expensive. All had been recommended by the Obama Administration for Trump to do. Nations that did them or comparable, like S Korea, New Zealand, and Iceland all had total deaths less than a thousand with populations comparable to our own. (One, New Zealand is now Corvin free and has removed all restrictions, the others are beginning to do so. )

Trump has single-handedly been responsible for more deaths than were lost in Vietnam in less than 6 months and still counting with economic damage worse than the Great Depression and you can't rationally blame that on the Chinese, the Democrats, or anyone but him.

 

From your own source "Dailykos:"

"Politico reports that, in 2016, the National Security Council under Barack Obama produced a 69-page Pandemic Playbook to help those responsible for protecting the American people from the threat of pandemics monitor and react to emerging pandemic threats."

 

And you were in full support of Trump's suggestion to take over the states to deal with the Floyd riots?

What the hell does it mean to 'institute' social distancing?

Define "widespread." Because we know that there was of course testing and contact tracing which took place - and I assume that you know that.

And where were these masks magically supposed to have come from?

Okay, so health is NOT State managed?

Oh, so you've never heard of Federalism then?

You mean in the 'playbook?'

Are you going to compare the US to those countries? Not even Fauci thinks that is fair, which he made clear when
he responded to a question in which the US was compared to South Korea. Are you disagreeing with Fauci?

So Andrew Cuomo who is in charge of the state which has over 20% of deaths, where he sent COVID patients into nursing homes - he has no responsibility whatsoever?

 

Actually, my references is YOUR source which you referred to in post #186! (PBS)

"The document, originally unearthed in March by Politico, is a 69-page National Security Council guidebook developed in 2016 with the goal of assisting leaders “in coordinating a complex U.S. Government response to a high-consequence emerging disease threat anywhere in the world.” https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation...ok-for-trump-administration-officials-confirm