How to Beat Mrs Clinton

Actually, Obama's approval rating is higher than the Bush's at this stage of their presidencies. (FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV, 7/11-12/06: 36% approval, 53% disapproval) Will it be higher after he has also been out of office for 6 years? Judging by the way the economy is finally recovering from the Bush recession, it's quite possible, but we don't know. It could still plummet as did the Bush's numbers before he leaves office.

Hillary is easily the most popular of those being mentioned for '16 with her having served in the current administration fresh in the mind of the electorate, despite the ongoing slimefest by those in a snit over her prospects. Her surrender to the Bush in his Iraq fiasco destroyed her in '08. With the Iraq disaster in the headlines, Randy can use it against her again.

 

All true and particularly so since through his very own inept handling of the presidency more and more people are now saying to themselves, "Hmmmm . . . as bad as Bush was at least he wasn't as consistently, chronically, and cluelessly bad as Barack Obama."

 

I love Hillary's latest blunder. It came on the heels of her "flat broke" fiasco. When criticized about taking ridiculous payments for speaking at colleges she defended the action by saying to gave it all to charity.

From the leftiist "PoliticusUSA--Real Liberal Politics" we have:
"Another Republican scandal has been blown to tiny bits as Hillary Clinton has confirmed that all of her speaking fees from universities are donated to charity."
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/07...university-speaking-fees-donated-charity.html

That was the first paragraph. Second paragraph:
"Former Sec. Clinton told ABC News that her speaking fees from universities get donated to the Clinton Foundation, “All of the fees have been donated to the Clinton Foundation."

Wow! That's impressive. Keep Hillary talking, guys.

 

The media have to live in America too. They have as much stake as any other American. If corporations are people now...why not the media.

 

I would respond if I had any idea what you were saying. The media has, for whatever reason, chosen to not defend Sen. Clinton as they do President Obama. Unless the media falls in line and covers for her and protects her, she's doomed.

 

Let here speak. She comes off as a total snake in the grass. She doesn't have Bill's gravitas and sincerity.

 

The only way she gets beat is in the Democratic primary. If she makes it past that, she'll beat the eventual wing nut who's nominated by the loonies on the right.

 

Odd, this seems to be the only post Natty doesn't want to respond to...

 

I wonder why?

 

you mean like there's just one "secret" way to beat Hillary? Here's one: let her talk.

 

Those in a tizzy over Clinton are unlikely to participate in the Democratic primary process. They would do well to defer their slimefest until they have found a viable alternative.

Wallowing in negativity is no way to go through life.

 

Of course, no one can stop her and, you're right, she could do herself a mischief fairly often.

 

If Hillary runs in the Republican primary elections she will win them, and then, as Republican candidate, she would have great possibilities to win the elections !!!

Humor a part,

it's impossible to undermine the role played by Sen. Clinton in supporting Bush Junior when it came the time to allow [or not] the President to take also military action against Saddam [I keep on reminding that in the Senate there was a Democrat majority ... so an influential Senator like Mrs. Clinton had a visible weight on the decision of other Democrat Senators].

Furthermore,
Mrs. Clinton has always appeared quite inclined to allow US military interventions abroad, instead of using diplomatic tools until the end.

So, as for foreign politics, the President Hillary Clinton would risk to be a female version of Bush [Senior or Junior, make your own choice].

What is President Clinton going to do about ...

Crimea,
Syria,
Iraq,
Palestine ...

Are we going to observe the American invasion of Middle East?

 

The best thing for Hillary to do is to be laconic. People are still infatuated with the idea of Hillary. They've never been infatuated with her ideas.

 

Brilliant! Since Republicans obsess over Ms C and seem loathe to select an alternative, both parties can nominate her and she can run against herself!

Spot on! Surrendering the authority to attack Iraq was overwhelmingly supported by Repubs in both houses, but whereas Democratic Reps voted against it by a wide margin, Democratic Senators went along, 29-21 - Clinton, Biden, and Kerry conspicuous amongst the hapless capitulators.

If the GOP does pay attention to anyone other than Clinton, Randy Paul is the best GOP choice to tie her to the fraudulently-pretexted, disastrous neocon scheme, as Obama did in 2008. It worked then, and the trillion dollar nation-building fiasco will be back in the headlines for some time to come.

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I think this strategy would work for the democrat nominations. Her role in the Iraq war will almost certainly be brought up again by Warren like it was successfully with Obama.

However I have my doubts republicans will tie her to Bush. I'm more inclined to believe that republicans will avoid Bush's name at all costs. Because it's really not going to be possible to bring up Bush and not have people remember he was a republican more than he had Hillary's support on the Iraq war authorization. Which itself is a pretty far stretch because while she supported the war authorization she withdrew support after it became an open ended conflict.

Rand Paul does have the benefit of the doubt for whether he would have supported the Iraq war or not. He wasn't in congress at the time so he certainly could deny it. And we all know his father's position against the war. But there would definitely be collateral damage in such a strategy just because he has an R next to his name. Sad as that fact is.

But if any republican could pull this off it would be Rand Paul. His harsh criticism towards the Bush administration on the Iraq war puts him in a great position for this strategy.

Personally Hillary's Iraq war vote is a major issue to me and probably will make me think very hard about voting for her. But it won't make me think hard about voting for Rand Paul instead. I just may vote Elizabeth Warren.

 

Please do. Hillary Clinton is a behemoth of a Democrat. The republicans would be very dumb to ignore her or underestimate her. She has plenty of baggage though and could be brought down with the right strategy. But she's not going anywhere if you expect her to just wither and die.

 

No Paul Libertarian will ever see the inside of the Whitehouse unless they are there as a vistor.

 

According to the polls he's got the best shot so far... but who knows. Seems like the republican front runner changes every week.

 

Now you are getting it, how many did they trot out in the last elections, looked like someone raided the local clown college to many of us. Maybe the GOP will do better this time around, or get used to President Hillary Clinton and let's not forget the First Man Bubba.

 

I'm not a huge Hillary fan. But *******n do I like the idea of Bill Clinton living in the white house again.

 

Same here on both counts. Funny thing about Bubba, when polls went out before he left office and people were asked if they would vote for him again the vast majority said yes to him over Dubya or Core, too bad they changed that law, we could have avoided Iraq completely and save many American lives. Plus I apsolutely Loved how he made the far right go moonbat crazy and laughed at them while doing it, heck he is Still laughing.

 

Murphy laws would suggest that she would find a way to lose ... even against herself!

 

Now, going finally to the point:

how to beat Mrs Clinton ...

finding a candidate in the other field able to defeat her.

* Sure a woman
* Better if an African American woman
* Better if with former experiences at the White House
* Better if she carries an Italian sounding name [something like Condoleezza]

P.S. a historical note: it was curious to note how she worked well with our Foreign Minister, D'Alema ... a former Communist!

 

She's not about to lose to anyone else, so why not? It would be fun!