How To Break The Monopoly That The Democrats and Republicans Hold

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  1. mutmekep

    mutmekep New Member

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    Even if you ever get several parties and coalitions they all going to need "sponsors" , best way is to adapt something close to the French system where the President rules the country through referendums (on paper but this doesn't have to be your case), a vote in the internet can be held in few hours and referendums should be binding to all houses and the president.
     
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    More people should know this: the state of Vermont does not have the Democrat-Republican duopoly. They have to share their state legislature with a third party: the Vermont Progressive Party. They currently hold 8 seats in the legislature along with 3-4 independents.

    What do you two party system supporters think about that?
     
  3. goober

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    Every political issue boils down to two sides eventually.
    Those in favor and those opposed.
    If you had 50 parties in congress, they would coalesce into two large coalitions, a ruling coalition and an opposition.
    There are a variety of views in almost every party, these get hammered out and eventually there is some grand bargain that gets what's in a bill into a bill, and then we're back to two sides, those opposed and those in favor.
    More parties doesn't make a difference, more people involved in party politics makes a difference.
     
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    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    No matter how sweetly they phrase it, the Electoral College AND the Senate means "we elites don't trust the rank and file."
     
  5. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Historically, when the two parties become too similar, Third Parties act as a wedge to separate them
    The Prohibitionist, and Abolitionist were both Third Parties. They did not win a presidency but certainly left their mark on on American society as one of the two major parties adopt some of their platform.
    In the late 1800's America's concentration of wealth in the hands of too few was similar to today.
    The parties both served the rich. Third parties such as Socialist, Progressives, Populist, Grange, etc. came along and slowly their platforms were absorbed. Some States such as California and Wisconsin elected Third Party governors in this era.

    2016 is the time to vote for a Third Party. As surely as Barak Obama lied to me in '08, no Democrat or Republican is going to help "people". They are too subservient to monied interests. Thus we suffer economic crimes from those labeled as Too Big To Prosecute. And Too Big To Fail.
    If they are that big, shouldn't they be busted down to size like Ma Bell was ?
    Ma Bell's mistake was not purchasing both parties. :hmm:

    Most of all, remember - the wrong candidate can't get elected because they are both wrong.
    Don't believe the "fluff" as difference. Wow! Now you get to purchase your own health insurance or else.
    That is "fluff" that brings in so many parrots.

    Moi :oldman:
     
  6. Charles Nicholson

    Charles Nicholson New Member

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    How about 0%?
     
  7. mikebee

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    I love this concept. I have been voting for the Green Party whenever I can. In any that is not a swing state, the right and left extremes should be supporting third parties
     
  8. perdidochas

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    What legislature passed that law?

    It's not unconstitutional, because it's not a law passed by any legislative group. It is an agreement between the political parties and the media. They could change it if they wished, but they won't.


    The problem with your theory is that there is no third party that even gets 5%.
     
  9. hseiken

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    The reason for that 5% is literally the result of your 2nd sentence. The only press Jill Stein got was her protest of the debates last year and with that being her only exposure, she looked like a nut job even though 75% of her platform resonated with me. I watched the 3rd party debates and also found Rocky Anderson, had he been widely covered, could have easily shut down both parties and swayed both blue and red states easily. He just had no platform due to the agreement mentioned several times in this thread.

    There were some rumblings a few years ago within the debate committee (that word looks like it's stretched!), which caused a fallout but that fallout lead to an even stronger stranglehold. However, that specific debate isn't the only part of the issue. It's the constant media blackout of anyone who doesn't wear the Donkey or Elephant badge. Personally, I don't want wild animals running the United States.
     
  10. Molke

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    Our clapped-out system is failing. It is the duty of patriots of every stripe to collapse
    the system in Washington. We will get great assists from an economy that will continue
    to erode. Then demographic shattering. Bring it on!
     
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    Seriously, vote for Ron Paul, the best choice now.
     
  12. Firecycle

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    I think you mean a Duopoloy.
     
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    The only real solution is campaign finance reform. Both parties have vested interests giving millions to elections and demanding quid pro quo. End this cycle and nearly any viable candidate could present himself (or herself) to the public with very little support. Even if the 2-party system stayed, they would have to include in their platforms ideas these new candidates espoused or risk losing their base.
     

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