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How To Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Meta777, Aug 4, 2018.

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Then you agree with me that it is superior. Great! That's something else that we can agree on!
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    I never said the West was inferior....


    No, saying it isn't inferior, which I never said, is NOT saying it's superior...see, there's this thing called "equal" . It means that all parts of the world have good things and bad things....and the history of the world ( which I will not post) proves me correct.

    I know you're thrilled when you think we agree but that hasn't happened yet.

    Now, discuss the topic or don't expect a reply.
     
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    If I say outback steakhouse commits genocide I am using terms as accurately as you are.
     
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    Where murder is the taking of a life and abortion is also the taking of a life, what can you say about outback steakhouse and person/persons who actually DO commit genocide? How can you link them even remotely?
     
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    But Outback Steakhouse takes thousands of lives every year. Isn't that genocide?
     
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    What are you talking about?
     
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    A cow is a living thing. A person has had a fluid definition since the dawn of time. Do you know all the groups that have been excluded from personhood at one time or another? You set the limit at humans now.....but it was not always that way. Who is to say you are right?
     
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    Outback Steakhouse actually kills them in-house?
     
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    I was making a point. You are losing the metaphor in the details
     
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    Can a cow be considered a human life?
     
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    A Jew, a black person and lots of others were not considered human at one point.
     
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    And that was evil. What is your point exactly?
     
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    Some say killing any animal is evil. Who are you to say where you set the line is right
     
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    Sure, but how does that make the animal a human exactly?
     
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    Not a human....but a life with saving.
     
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    Sure, but like you said, not a human. I'm glad that you now understand that having the opinion that abortion is murder is NOT the same as believing that killing cows for meat is murder!
     
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    It is exactly the same thing
     
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    How, if unborn babies can be considered to be human but cows can not?
     
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    Because you can not murder a fetus through a legal abortion. It is impossible
     
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    CORRECT! How does this mean that having the OPINION that abortion is murder is the same as believing that killing cows for meat is murder?
     
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    You have an opinion about something that can not exist. You can not murder a fetus in a legal abortion and you can not murder a cow by killing it. If you say you can have one then you can have the other. But you can't.
     
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    Yes of course, someone cannot have the opinion that abortion is murder according to the law, because it isn't, but since when was "murder" only a legal term?
     
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    It can be anything you like then and then it can also apply to animals. If you want to change the meaning then anyone can change the meaning too.
     
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    Okay, so then why would it be a big deal if abortions weren't included in the health system?

    Yeah I stuffed that up. I'll go again:

    I'm guessing only "IF THE FETUS IS DEEMED A PERSON" which you don't believe.
     
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    Are you not the one who said "self-refuting?"
     
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