How To Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Meta777, Aug 4, 2018.

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  1. chris155au

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    Your question made no sense. What do carrots and tennis have to do with whether or not someone who has cancer will get treatment if they can't pay for it?
     
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    Your question does not make any sense in this debate about abortion. Make a point
     
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    It goes to this question of yours:
    I responded by saying, "in the US, yes, if the person doesn't have insurance." You said that this isn't true and now I'm asking you if someone with cancer MUST be treated. And you are deflecting.
     
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    This has no relevance to a abortion debate. I have given you a lot of leeway. Apparently too much. Show relevance to the debate on abortion or I will not answer any of your questions
     
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    You attempted to equate abortion to removing life support. I was showing you how you are wrong by saying that removing life support results in a natural death. You attempted to say how it isn't a natural death.
     
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    Starving someone to death is not a natural death and would not be allowed for an unconscious person.
     
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    without family permission if it gets to a certain point, right?
     
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    No idea what you are trying to say
     
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    I do not actually claim "defacto" that a Zygote is not - "A Human". My claim is essentially that there is no good legal argument that can be made - under any reasonable definition of what a human actually is - which can defacto show that a Zygote is a human.
     
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    I would be more likely to agree with you than not.
     
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    Families are allowed to remove life support!
     
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    Yep. The next of kin. Just like the mother in a abortion
     
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    Did you have an intelligent topic-appropriate question or a point or a statement? Or just the usual?
     
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    Oh, just challenging you on when exactly the baby is no longer part of the woman's body, which you are clearly scared to answer because you know that you'll be in a hole! :roflol:
     
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    What happens to someone if they can no longer eat the natural way and are left for long enough without assistance?
     
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    They die an unnatural death
     
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    Then why didn't you post that instead of posting something stupid like, "Nothing further then @FoxHastings?""

    When is the fetus no longer a part of the woman's body?

    Easy, when it is no longer part of the woman's body.

    That is at birth.


    I have answered that question many, many times in this forum and see no reason to be "scared" of it..
     
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    I neither said that something was wrong with talking about it, nor did I suggest that only 100% solutions were worth discussing. I simply asked what solutions you proposed and you could not come up with anything that would actually make a difference.

    When it comes to aborting unwanted pregnancies, the only factor is the "Unwanted" part. There are many children that will grow up in a system, never knowing what it feels like to be wanted, loved, or cherished. There is your chance to make a difference.
     
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    I don't claim that my solution would do anything more than merely reducing.

    Actually I came up with government not being involved in abortion, therefore removing the procedure from the health system. THIS in my opinion would reduce abortion. Just because it is your opinion that it would NOT reduce abortion, doesn't mean that I "could not come up with anything."

    Make a difference? By killing them? Surely you can't be serious.
     
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    Because you didn't reply to my post where I challenged you on when the baby is no longer part of the woman's body. Perhaps you just missed the reply alert.

    Sure, but isn't a baby considered to be "born" even before the umbilical cord is cut?
     
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    Do you mind explaining how exactly that would be an unnatural death?
     
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    And how was I supposed to know that with this message "" "Nothing further then @FoxHastings?"" ???

    Yup ,it's considered born when it is out of the woman...….did you have any kind of meaningful point related to the real world ?

    Here's the FULL answer instead of your usual cherry picked quote:

    Then why didn't you post that instead of posting something stupid like, "Nothing further then @FoxHastings?""

    When is the fetus no longer a part of the woman's body?

    Easy, when it is no longer part of the woman's body.

    That is at birth.


    I have answered that question many, many times in this forum and see no reason to be "scared" of it..
     
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    :) And you have yet to present any "challenge'....
     
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    It was if you deliberately ignored me.

    But until the umbilical cord is cut, isn't it still part of the woman's body because it is ATTACHED to the woman's body?
     
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