How to get everyone wealthy: unregulated capitalism

produce
own it
trade
no government moddle man
those who suck won't get paid
repeat
mass produced housing
end to public school
atomic pwoered electric grid
very fast net
all come naturally when government idiots out of way

 

How about you provide some real life examples of where "unfettered capitalism" has made everyone wealthy?

Because this seems like pure idealism to me. I've seen unregulated capitalism first hand - in a free market utopia called Guatemala where dirt-poor children run around the streets sniffing highly volatile solvents. Disgusting.

 

Yep! Unregulated anything is a recipe for disaster. Here's another version of his perfect utopia of unregulation; http://amaindy.com/index.php?option...ry&catid=40:an-independent-attitude&Itemid=60

 

And here's yet another..

[video=youtube;7QDv4sYwjO0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDv4sYwjO0[/video]

 

Succinctly put, I reckon anarcho-capitalism is possible to successfully pull off but is unlikely to yield anything close to utopian results without first greatly altering the beliefs and moral values of most members of society. This is about the same attitude I've got towards communism - which the OP could have easily been written in support of if just two of its provisions were changed - though I suppose I'd opt to live in a communist society rather than an ancap one any day.

 

I don't see how an anarcho-capitalist system could even work, considering the state as we know it arose with capitalism and is necessary to enforce social stability under the system - basically the state is needed to clean up capitalism's messes like crime caused by alienation.

 

Easily 100% correct. Anarchism is an idegology that most people don't really understand, and attempt right now to switch over would be deemed socialistic by those who don't understand Anarchism.

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Yet there are many things that we don't the government to do. For instance, I don't the government to tell me not to talk over other people. It is simply the overbearing government we have currently that makes people think it's needed. Once it goes, we can have the most freedom.

 

I don't see any real attempt at replying to the quote. Capitalism and the state goes hand in hand. Its coercion that typically creates capitalist market. Anarchists, excuse my crassness, fall into two camps. The youngster looking for a label other than Marxist; the older person who abuses the term to hide from the innate coercion from capitalism

 

1. Your avatar scares me.
2. Yes, the economy and the state go together, no matter the system, save perhaps libertarianism. But in order to be as free as possible, everyone needs to be able to do what they want to do. If you give everyone the ability to do what they want to do, then they can succed on their own. If they fail, they can pick themselves up and go again.

 

Its 'only' maggie thatcher

Everyone needs to be able to do what they want to do? Sounds a little Anton LaVey to me. Perhaps more detail is required?

 

with this little change welcome to the socialist collective

 

Fair enough.

Everyone needs to be able to do what they want to do? Sounds a little Anton LaVey to me. Perhaps more detail is required?[/QUOTE]

Just as it sounds, people can do whatever they want to do, so long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights of others.

 

Most activity will infringe on rights somewhere along the line: from pollution (and numerous externalities) to imperfect contracting in general. Think you need more meat to your argument!

 

Nothing is more coercive than a socialist dictatorship, and since a true socialist society can only occur and last for any length of time without autocratic rule once could extrapolate that to say socialism is coercive. We do need government, but only as a relatively weak entity through which sovereign states can function. Rights should remain with the states and the people as per our 9th and 10th amendment. As our US government became stronger individuals lost rights. Capitalism with regulation only created to prevent fraud and theft would create the most prosperity.

 

See TS, is one of these people who really make me wonder what is going on.

I believe TS is a paid shill, and yet he hits all the key points like the FED, and liberty issues.

I'm curious who is paying people to shill, but on the topics that matter.

 

Who is TS?

 

Getting everybody wealthy via 'unregulated capitalism' sounds like repeating the same capitalistic fundament; a capital/money/gold/buildings/oil/stocks based system.
Get everyone 'unregulated energy' instead, because if everyone is independent on energy the big oil companies and megabanks cannot work together with (corrupt) governments or criminal regimes as currently is going on all over the world.
One is richer when one has independency (on energy (geothermical and tidal energies are inexhaustable and non poluting, this is why they/media will never talk about those energy sources), food and water, and something to do daily, a job or selfownership) and freedom instead of a bank owned house (morgage) and wealth (and stacking taxes)
Money only should be a method of payment.

 

thread starter

 

With unregulated capitalism, the end result is one person owns everything.

Ever play Monopoly?

 

All forms of capitalism encourage market concentration mind you!

 

All forms of any economic system encourage market concentration. You are welcome!

 

you seem confused
examples:
the USA
hong kong
korea

 

If you have basic personal propery and contract enforcement as USA was mostly intended before case law fed and things went off the rails with the welath nuking FDR new deal and fed causing great depression, the market sorts eveything out. People are no bs when they have liberty. Cronies fear this. USA gained most wealth and made most poor people rich and same with hong cong when they were close to unregulated capitalism. 2008 and great depression fault of government, See john allison on youtube for nice summary of 2008.

 

nonsense
unregulated capitalism makes all rich and peaceful
thats how usa became by far no1
and hong kong grew like weed with it
hong kong had 15% flat tax and 15% cap gain, nothing else, and such a system would skyrocket usa economy today
youtube john allison on 2008 crash, which was government, and remember fed casued great dpression along with fdrs disasterous policies
also remember all growth end of ww2 was the LOWER ing of masive military gov spending which make ecnomy go UP

 

big biz gets big by serving big number of customers
government payout aka communism aka cronyism is result of gov being allowed to spend too much
feds are supposed to do courts n defense and rest staes, inerstae commerce clause and case law should be erased
use aotmic power for electric grid
end public school and money to niversities
get nasa t do something useful by sending nuclearwaste out into space