How would you solve the Transgender conundrum?

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How do we resolve the Transgender conundrum?

  1. Those born men are men, those born woman are women and surgery makes no difference

    26 vote(s)
    68.4%
  2. People should be allowed to define their gender as they will and it should be legally respected

    5 vote(s)
    13.2%
  3. We must separate bathrooms/changing rooms/sporting events for transgender people

    2 vote(s)
    5.3%
  4. Other?

    5 vote(s)
    13.2%
  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    No one is claiming genetic make up changes in a person.
    Just like gays, trans people knew they were different about the time every person starts to understand their sexuality. Anywhere from 5-10 yrs old, depending on the individual.
     
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    They needed strong parenting/counseling at that time.
     
  3. dairyair

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    LOL.
    Just what is your view of strong parenting/counseling?
     
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    agree, we need different terms for those that choose this lifestyle

    using the existing terms just adds confusion

    I am perfectly fine with people loving any consensual adult they want, but it does not change their birth gender

    that said, I go more by looks, if one looks like a she, I will call her a she, ect.... some can pull it off, others can't
     
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    I suppose they could have a Porta Potty behind the liberry. ;)
     
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    No. For the exact same reason we do not allow or entertain women to compete in male sports...this isn't rocket science. This is how society has done things since the *******n romans.

    And we got on just fine until progressives decided to **** up such a simple and obvious concept.
     
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    The whole thing is a luxury problem.

    I may be born as a male human being - but deep inside I feel like a female tiger.

    And now I am very sad and think it deeply unfair that there are so few toilet doors for female tigers around.
     
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    So it is exactly!
    Let us still call a spade a spade - and not a non-binary object in case that spade decides that it is in reality a Black Forest Cherry Cake.
     
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    Stronger sticks (/satire)
     
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    I sexually Identify as an AH-30 Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm ****ing retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.

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    I think Asia Kate Dillon is HOT. HOW can conservatives say they're not authoritarians when they want tell you what sex you can say you are.
     
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    Like religious people for instance?
     
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    When you say "Religious People"....I suppose you are talking of people that hold to a faith beyond themselves as opposed to people that belong to an organization. You attack those people while you depend on a faith of what takes place between your own two ears yet you don't have all the answers. That is extremely hypocritical and has nothing to do with those who pretend they are something they are not.

    It is like pretending you are an opera singer and you should perform and demand the entire culture pay your expected ticket price to hear you sing just because of what you pretend to be. Has nothing to do with faith regarding the unknown.
     
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    Well said!

    It is like a mouse that pretends to be an elephant and then demands from the whole world: "Now treat me as such!"
    Or vive versa.

    It is egotism in the extreme.
     
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    No, women have been questioned about femininity since women sports began. That's only been in the last 50 yrs or so.
    Women do compete in men's sports. It's not very many, but they do. And are allowed per some sports and rules. Girls have played on boys football teams. Even at the college level. One anyway.
     
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    I don't think the Sumerian's allowed women to wrestle men, fella...if they did they called it sex.
     
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    I see the poster showed up in thread but decided not to answer. Hmm.
     
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    What does that have to do with sports today and trans people?
     
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    I gave the answer I think conservatives will give. With all due respect I do think most of them beat their children into submission on most things.

    I think children should pick their own gender. They should be given toys and books appropriate to both and let them play with whatever they like. In group settings let them play with whoever they want to.
     
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    In the Original Greek Olympic games women weren't allowed to compete in or even watch the games. Only men performed and they did it naked just to make sure no women sneaked in.
    Thankfully attitudes to women have changed since ancient times. Well, in most people anyway. Attitudes towards transgender athletes will change too given enough time.
     
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    Today's liberals are yesterday's conservatives.
    As people realize and lose their fear, that others who don't look like and act exactly the same as them, are still good people.
    Also, it becomes less relevant to younger people who've never dealt with discrimination of a certain group.

    Blacks marrying whites was an outrage at one time. Now even many old people don't care.
    Gays were shunned from society until 30 yrs or so ago. Now, kids have friends who are gay because they don't need to hide in a closest and they don't care at all. But since it's relatively new to society, the older generations still would like to shun gays.

    Trans is just the next group that have this fight.
     
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    Bullshit, nobody is doing that.
     
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    it shows how far back society had genders and sports figured out before progressives came along and ****ed it up.
     
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    The only thing many religious people worship is themselves and their own twisted beliefs loosely based on their preferred story book.
     
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    Not if they're someone born male going into a bathroom or changing room inhabited by people born female?
     

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