HUNDREDS of Twitter Employees Paid to View “Everything You Post Online” Including Private “Sex Messa

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  1. ThorInc

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    Is there a legal contractual agreement to uses a free Facecrack account?
     
  2. Windigo

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    Nothing in Twitters terms if service gives them express permission to read your DMs.

    There are also legal restraints on contracts. FedEx cannot legally have a provision in their contract that allows them to read my mail. Such a provision would violate the law that FedEx operates under. Law > Contract, contracts cannot legally violate the law it's one of the 3 things that voids any contract.

    These are not questions that need debate. These questions have already been asked and answered. Twitter should be required to follow the same rules as any physical mail carrierr.
     
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    Nonsense. Twitter posts are in the public.
     
  4. ThorInc

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    Have you actually read the contractual agreements of FREE Twitter & Facecrack accounts in depth? The FedEx/Postal comparison is quite different contractually as your pay for their services.

    EDIT: And I actually agree that Twitter/Facecrack are profiling and intrusive as well as profiting "bigly" on the selling of personal info. What concerns me about this is the motive of the legislature that maybe tasked to write new laws to cover them.
     
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    so much of your data is being handles by people overseas nowadays... who knows what it will be used for

    can the government listen in on your Alexa or Google home? can hackers?... their employees?
     
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  6. Windigo

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    Twitters terms are posted in this thread. Nothing explicit in their terms. The law would assume an expectation of privacy.

    Twitter is operating under the "no controlling legal authority" reasoning, which basically is they will do it until a court tells them no.

    And the law has never and will never make a distinction for free and paid services.
     
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    You state this like it's a fact. I don't consider this a statement of fact but an opinion. Maybe lawsuits should be organized to test this and see how far it can go.
     
  8. Reality

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    You've never read the TOS have you? You don't realize what you agreed to, do you? Class action lawsuit? On what grounds? YOU AGREED TO THIS UP FRONT. :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Don't send dick pics on twitter. Use a text message like a normal person. Then only the NSA can see your jimmy
     
  9. Reality

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    You have no expectation of privacy in information you turn over to a third party :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Google that phrase for the case law :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    I have to agree with you here.
     
  11. Reality

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    "When you privately communicate with others through our Services, such as by sending and receiving Direct Messages, we will store and process your communications, and information related to them."
    nothing about that implies that no one is looking at your ****, and PROCESS explicates that they will be sifting the content and categorizing it if nothing else.

    Also privately is contrasted with publically posted IE searchable. The profiles they generate and sell are THEIR private, proprietary business information.
     
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  12. TRFjr

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    If you would actually read the thread before you shoot off your uninformed mouth I posted the TOS 3 or 4 times and according to Twitters TOS when it comes to their Direct Messages and Non-Public Communication your only agreeing for Twitter to store and process not read or share

    and because you have demonstrated you are to lazy to read any of the thread I will post it for you for the 5th time


    Direct Messages and Non-Public Communications: We provide certain features that allow you to communicate more privately. For example, you can use Direct Messages to have private conversations with other Twitter users. When you privately communicate with others through our Services, such as by sending and receiving Direct Messages, we will store and process your communications, and information related to them. Please note that if you interact with public Twitter content shared with you via Direct Message, for instance by liking a Tweet shared via Direct Message, those interactions may be public. When you use features like Direct Messages to communicate privately, please remember that recipients may copy, store, and re-share the contents of your communications.
    https://twitter.com/en/privacy

    now you notice they mentioned private and privately numerous time giving one the impression of reasonable expectation of privacy the legal standard to prove for violating your right of privacy
     
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    which makes you just as uniformed as he is
     
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    using the word privately and private to describe Direct Messages and Non-Public Communication rightfully gives one the impression of reasonable expectation of privacy the legal standard to prove for violating your right of privacy

    if you was agreeing to letting Twitter read and share your Direct Messages and Non-Public Communication they couldn't rightfully call it private now could they?
     
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    1) You're using your assumptions. That's a bad idea. Instead you should look to the document itself and the language it uses. Here privately is used to described person to person messages not viewable on the general or "public" twitter profile.
    Public is also used in the same paragraph, and it refers to the public twitter profile that any person may search. The meaning of private is what the contract, not your own assumptions based on "muh privacy", holds. That's how contract law works.

    2) Standing case law is that you have no reasonable expectation of privacy in information your entrust to a 3rd party.
    Period.
    3) Show me where you paid for a bailment for your information to be kept private. O you didn't? Well that's going to give you trouble.
     
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    you need to now show were Twitter warns you that by agreeing to this TOS your giving up you right of privacy to your Direct Messages and Non-Public Communication
     
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    Holy **** can you not read?


    You've already quoted the terms and the analysis is above.
     
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    no case law proves that unless stated other wise messages that are deemed private as Twitter descried Direct Messages and Non-Public Communication as gives the user reasonable expectation of privacy

    you can use Direct Messages to have private conversations with other Twitter users. When you privately communicate with others through our Services, such as by sending and receiving Direct Messages,

    two times Twitter describes Direct Messages and Non-Public Communication as private there for giving a reasonable expectation of privacy

    and no you don't give up your right to reasonable expectation of privacy using the services of a third party unless you specifically sign away that right
    a phone company is a third party they aren't allowed to listen in on your phone calls and then share that content with others Google is a third party they aren't allowed to open read your emails and share its content
     
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    FedEx and UPS are governed by federal laws.
     
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    Cite these laws.
     
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    3 things void any contract I just listed one of them, violation of public policy. Another is 'no meeting if the minds.'

    In any contract case if you make the argument you just made before the judge you just lost. The moment you are forced to argue 'You thought it meant X but I meant Y.' You have lost your case. If we disagreed on the meaning of the word "private" then there is no meeting if the minds and the contract is void.

    This is way to easy.
     
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    Phone companies cannot apply for warrants.

    We provide certain features that allow you to communicate more privately.

    It says "more privately", not "totally private."

    The legal standard for a reasonable expectation of privacy is not based on the number of times the words "privately" or "private" appear.
     
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    It does provide you have no reasonable expectation of privacy in information you turn over to a 3rd party.
    That's fairly well established.

    You'll want to quote the entire paragraph, not just cherry pick dear. The rest of the paragraph is informative as to the definitions, as I pointed out above.

    Yeah, with your isp you do dude. Twitter is not a public utility dude. Even nn would only effect isps, it wouldn't force sites to host content. You're way off base dude.
     
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    Twitter, like Google, is an evil enterprise.
     
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    "For example, you can use Direct Messages to have private conversations with other Twitter users."

    "When you privately communicate with others through our Services"

    Tweeter is proclaiming that Direct Messages and Non-Public Communication are private communications there for giving the user reasonable expectations of privacy
     
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