I believe we may have come up with a viable compromise.

How about gun owners pushing for legislation that will require mental health professionals to provide assessments on whether a person in their care should be allowed to have access to firearms?

As far as having violent criminals serve their full terms I am down with that but I don't want to hear any whining about tax cuts. It costs taxpayer dollars to keep them incarcerated so either we pay more in taxes or we let out the non-violent marijuana users. Your choice.

We also need to increase funding for the prevention of domestic terrorism threats IMO.

 

We already have that. If a person is a danger to themselves or others there is a process to adjudicate them mentally unfit. So a non issue.

You can let out ALL the nonviolent drug users and offenders. And legalize drugs and tax them to pay for it. Fixed that for you too.

There is plenty of funding we just waste it on stupid bull(*)(*)(*)(*). See the latest government waste report.

 

Background checks are a waste of time and money. Let people carry concealed - end of problem - instantly.

 

There is no mechanism for background verification of the mentally unfit.

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Only because they have been rendered ineffective.

Concealed carry has it's own inherent problems since people still suffer from road rage.

 

Road rage will diminish as CCW expands. Background checks are a scam.

 

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20130124/mental-health-and-firearms

Tell me more about what you know nothing of

 

Facts prove otherwise.

https://www.google.com/webhp?source...=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=roadrage concealed carry

Only because they were rendered ineffective by the NRA special interests.

 

Page 6 disproves your claim that "the incidence of mass shootings/domestic terrorism has increased from one every 6 months to almost daily now.".
Well done.

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Ah. But this isn't the FBI, as you claimed.

 

Ironic!

http://www.thetrace.org/2015/08/mental-health-cornyn-bill-involuntary-commitment/

The NRA pays lip service while actually doing the direct opposite.

But not surprising that hoplophiles never bother to actually look into the details.

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Disingenuous since you were provided with exactly what you asked for and the 2nd response is to a different poster.

 

Nothing here changes the fast that Page 6 disproves your claim that "the incidence of mass shootings/domestic terrorism has increased from one every 6 months to almost daily now.".

 

The incidence of mass shootings has increased per the FBI.

 

Please cite the text of your FBI source that illustrates the number of incidents have risen to your claim of "almost daily"

 

Involuntary commission is not being adjudicated mentally unfit. There is a due process issue. Leave it to a liberal to not give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about that.

 

If we have legislators who are legislating based on popular perception and not based on rational and logical analysis, is a problem. That means it is the media who controls our government.

 

As you have said, you have already provided documented evidence. The number of dead, compared to the number of recorded shootings, demonstrate that they are not an overwhelming problem with regard to the number of people who are killed. Three deaths per incident is hardly significant, when looked at in the proper context.

Then precisely what are you suggesting when you talk of the public recognizing and acknowledging the problem in order to head off more draconian measures down the line?

 

They will always be ineffective - pointless intrusive harassment.

 

Failure to acknowledge that there is a problem that needs to be addressed will have consequences.

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Failure to acknowledge that there is a problem that needs to be addressed will have consequences.

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Failure to acknowledge that there is a problem that needs to be addressed will have consequences.

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Failure to acknowledge that there is a problem that needs to be addressed will have consequences.

 

By your own admission "the problem" is just a perception based on media-manufactured lies. The data proves otherwise. The real problem is that we have government legislating to this media distortion and the associated public perception rather than doing real logical and sober analysis.

 

And there it is. Every system of Universal Background Checks ends in someone keeping paper in order to trace the weapon. Traceable weapons will be those confiscated early on when firearms are banned.

 

Life is full of problems. They are addressed far better by independent free human beings.

Transforming humanity into a programmed and regulated ant colony is not the answer - to human problem.

Scroll back - I did address the problem. The problem is a surfeit of helpless victims.

 

At this point the problem has been explained in detail and backed up with the data.

The endless denials and obfuscations won't do anything but enable the problem to exacerbate.

Unless anyone wants to discuss viable and feasible solutions there is no point in responding to those who refuse to acknowledge the reality of the situation.

 

Backed up with data? Do you mean the FBI data that shows that firearm homicides have been declining since 1995 despite the record number of gun sales and the doubling of CCWs?

 

not if the records only keep names, dates, and serial #s.

this nonsense about confiscation is just a lame excuse to oppose UBC and help criminals stay armed

 

What does that have to do with what I said?

You made a claim:
".... according to the FBI, the incidence of mass shootings/domestic terrorism has increased from one every 6 months to almost daily now."
As you have said to any number of other posters here, when you make a claim, it is up to you to support that claim.

Well?

 

Records are a database. Federally, a database is illegal as it stands.
Any criminal that is determined to get a firearm, gets them from straw purchases by girlfriends, family, or friends. If UBCs are passed, this won't change, therefore UBCs won't effect gun violence stats one bit.