I can understand why the police act the way they act

Can you back up that opinion with anything concrete?

 

Interesting that you accuse me of something I SPECIFICALLY did not say

That's dishonest my friend

 

A lot of unnecessary and redundant laws(for example, I'm on the side of ending the war on drugs. Prohibition failed and this more costly version of it failed as well.) At the same time, ironically the Floyd case shows what happens when an intoxicated person goes into the public sphere. Usually bad things. So it's a balance. Marijuana=good, behavior-altering agents=still bad.

In this day and age, people shouldn't be arrested for jaywalking for example. So, it's very much a factor. But also, inmates don't have a functional place to go when they're released, or the background necessary to get a job. For many felons, getting back into civil life is difficult so they return to a life of crime(again, Floyd is another such example.)

I also have problems with putting non-violent offenders in general population. If you put a thief and a pedophile together, and the pedophile talks about...things, you could be creating a second pedo. I think the prison classification system needs to be way better, and inmates need to be segregated on the whole.(IE: Different levels for different inmates, and even different cafeteria's for each.)

Alot of reform stuff that I would love to do to make things better.

 

Actually part of the solution is to combat all that 'sympathy' in the jury pool. Its a lot of excuses after the fact, for the inappropriate and often criminal use of excessive or lethal force based on profession. When people are dying in police custody, after arrest, in the squad car, or under restraint, or after they have been subdued by the five cops surrounding and beating on them a la Rodney King, or leaning on their neck until they die, we already know they are not reaching for a revolver that they will subsequently aim, **** and fire. .

 

You made this up.

 

Yeah you know you’re right. The problem isn’t the fact that blacks makeup less than 13% of the population and yet they commit:

53.1% of the total murder
28.7% of the total rape
54.3% of the total robbery
33.5% of the total aggravated assault
29.8% of the total larceny and
35.7% of the total violent arson

No that’s not the problem. The problem is that people like me point it out. That’s the real problem.

 

Blacks are far more likely to be
stopped by police..increasing the likelihood of charges
Charged with harsher charges for the same actions
Given jail sentences
Given harsher jail sentences

So there's that

 

And most crime is "racial"

Blacks generally commit crimes against blacks...whites commit crimes against whites.

So right there...this "fear of the black man" is unjusitified.

What most serious people find when they look at crime stats...is that POVERTY...not skin color accounts for who commits crime more than anything...and guess what? Blacks are far more likely to live in poverty.

In other words...poor whites are just as dangerous to cops and the regular population as poor blacks


And remove so many of the GUNS in our society and cops won't feel like their lives are in danger in every interaction

 

Let’s assume that’s all true. Given their rate of crime I would argue the criminal justice system should be even more heavy handed.

 

Logic is not your friend

You "assume that's true" and then draw the completely wrong conclusion for it

 

On what grounds? Are you asserting if the criminal justice system goes easier on these criminals that it will somehow reduce the level of crime?

That’s preposterous.

 

You "assume that it is true" that the justice system is overly harsh on blacks (accounting for much of the higher crime stats) and then call for it to be HARSHER??

I'll let you work that "logic" out

 

No I’m assuming that the justice system is more harsh on blacks. I reject your conclusion that it is the cause of the blacks grossly disproportionate rate of crime. In fact if they weren’t overly harsh those violent crime stats would be even WORSE.

 

Can you back any of this up evidence?

 

No cite, no beans, TI.

 

And Whites are also killed by cops, more than Blacks. Higher in total number, and in per capita in comparison to their crime rates.

So there's that...

 

No problem.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/table-43

 

That's the whole point. Those countries don't have insane gun laws that GUARANTEE almost everybody will have one.

 

To highlight the problem, here is an officer's video footage of an event. The officer questioned a person because he was sitting on a patio. The officer refused to believe any answers to the questions asked. The officer referred to the weapon that this person had in his hand. This led to 6 officers pointing their guns at this person. To the rescue came another person who verified that the person had a right to be on the patio. This other person was not asked for any proof of the answers he gave. Spot the difference

 

I assume you mean the problem was his refusal to provide ID with an address on it and his refusal to put down his grabber and his combative attitude from the outset while this cop was just doing his job?

 

So was his rescuer asked the same questions and asked for his ID?

 

His “rescuer” provided confirmation the individual lived there. Something this guy had provided zero shreds of evidence of while being combative. Once something was provided he was let alone.

And btw if he hadn’t copped an attitude right off the bat that would have gone very differently. And even with his attitude the cop was very patient with him.

 

Why was his rescuer believed?

 

Probably because they didn’t look like a vagrant. But more likely it was simply a confirmation. I guess you’re asserting if it was another black person they wouldn’t have been believed?

 

What does a vagrant look like?

Does that officer question everyone sitting on their own patio or cleaning up their own yard?