I don't need religion to be a good person.

Perhaps

 

No one said you needed religion to be a good person, just don't justify evil ways and consider them good.

 

Tradition? Family indoctrination? Ethnicity? Place of birth? 99% of religious people are religious for such reasons.

Few people are religious because they're afraid they might be evil. That's a) kinda silly, and b) ascribing a supernatural power to cancel evil - to religion.

 

I said I don't need religion to be a good person, to which I'm confident.
I admit, those who quote the Bible to me, I feel are lost without their books, but, that's their prerogative, not mine.
As I say, I don't need religion to be a good person.
Sometimes people fear such statements and come with b/s like how this is wrong.
It's only wrong to the weak minded who need religion, of course.

 

Just be confident to think for yourselves, never mind all those who came before you, it's your life, not theirs.
If people are only religious because of that, then, that's like voting for the same political party your parents do instead of having a political debate if you disagree. The confident question, the weak follow without questioning first.

 

As for those who quote the Bible, that's a special kind of dumb, the kind with no confidence and no understanding of this concept.

To me they've surrendered all free will and demonstrate a weakness in their neediness for answers as well as forfeiting any opinions because they waste their time going to a book to tell them what to think.

 

99% of the world operates that way - via tradition. I'm not defending it mind, just pointing out that that's why the vast majority of religious people are religious.

As it happens, I agree with you. I'm a firm believer that we ought not indoctrinate our kids ... either religiously OR politically. We can explain in clear terms why we personally believe what we believe (once kids are old enough to comprehend), while stressing the importance of considering both sides of any argument before deciding for oneself. We raised our kids that way. We exposed them to both points of view (in politics and religion), in a balanced way .. very carefully avoiding any suggestion that one side or the other was 'right' and the other 'wrong'.

Kids now are subjected to vast amounts of political/cultural propaganda, and it's a massive parental fail if we don't ensure they're given the confidence to take it with a grain of salt .. carefully considering the other side before drawing a conclusion.

 

I can't help you with that.
You aren't going to win any points for being so humble in your confidence to be good person.

Again, I can't help you with your own doubts. But I would like to point out, what you call 'impressive' I call normal and that you call it impressive I call it 'disturbing' to a degree.

I can only assume you're then, just trying to be humble because you fear pride for some reason and lack the ability to say "I'm confident that I'm a good person' to which I can only feel sorry for you and thankful that I'm me, in London, etc etc.

 

Not much different to the political ideologue. Who are just as bad, in this regard.

 

I have no idea why you think accepting that one needs work, is some kind of boast.

 

I know one thing, they're not @The Rhetoric of Life
Like I say to anyone... If they want to waste their lives, be my guest.
But I'm me.

 

oy vai ..

 

I suppose if you need anything, then you need too much.

Look at Buddhism, desire leads to suffering, then ask yourself why do you need?

 

So I guess, if you need religion, then I pity your for lacking the confidence I have found.

 

I am an atheist that as a child had a strong christian upbringing. It's simple to live my life that a way that would follow the teachings of christianity without being a christian. I can live that way seven days a week while most christians are only capable of living that way one day a week.

 

People who don't understand what it's like to be free, will question this.

Being free means being confident.
And being religious isn't the same.
They surrender to a higher power.
Because they themselves aren't able to be the masters of their own universes.

 

@yguy said this was retarded and that I don't understand religion.

Since when was not needing religion to be good retarded?
@yguy should feel bad for this statement because it was posted in ignorance of the fact that @yguy's opinions don't work with those with the confidence to say they don't need religion to be good.
@yguy doesn't understand confidence, freedom, or this concept.

 

That's a funny statement most people I hear now a days that quote the Bible are atheist and love to take versus out of context.

 

This concept is quite clear and should confuse no one.

I don't need religion to be good.


Deal with it.

 

People are free to do as they please, including quote the Bible. Spend their lives doing that, then, they've only got themselves to blame.
So many other things they could have done, but instead, chose to quote the Bible, it really is their own loss and the ability to free think is what they've lost, as well as that precious time.

 

I don't need it necessarily, but I live with human beings who do. It's my responsibility to them.

Anyone who lives in a group, and has good close friends, has a responsibility to them to be decent and kind. Only the sociopath doesn't think so.

 

Not sure if this is directed at me .. hard to tell.

But in answer, I'm an atheist.

 

You don't need religion to be decent and kind.

 

That's directed at anyone too simple to get the very simple statement of the OP.

 

Like, if that OP was at all mind blowing or if you saw holes in it like @yguy. Then, I pity you, because you're not getting it.