I Guess I do Want Your Guns

For perhaps the 3rd time now: You may quote me where I said it shouldn't be studied. Go on then. Quote me. Surely you can find a single sentence to take out of context?

Are those the facts? Do you have data to show to that effect? No? Better make with the science then and stop running your mouth.
Additionally: As stated this was the cause du jour in the 90's and its been studied over and over and over. It continues to be studied. Nothing has been produced so far which would allow what you wish to pass strict scrutiny.

I didn't make any absolute statement except to point out: YOU have provided no evidence, and the numerous studies I am aware of from the last time this was the panic of the day likewise found nothing of note. Since you have no evidence, even correlative evidence (by your own admission no less), I refuse to accept your premise and exhort you to provide data if you wish to be taken seriously when you say you want to seriously curtail 1st amendment rights.

Again: I've never said we shouldn't study. I've asked you to cough up data more than once in this post for Christ's sake, to say nothing of others.

Finally: Let's assume everything you say is true. IF you can identify the small percentage of the populace that are at risk the way you pass strict scrutiny is you restrict THOSE persons rather than the populace entire. Some people can't be trusted with scissors, so we put them in homes as wards of the state or under the conservatorship of a family member after adjudication. The persons you describe, that can turn into mass murdering psychopaths apparently because they played a few rounds of call of duty, likewise would be committed. We would not abrogate the rights of the entire populace to cater to the snowflakes, we would put the snowflakes in the ****ing freezer.

However, from the studies that already exist (and there are many), what you say is not in fact true.

 

What Beto is advocating IS armed rebellion. WE run this country, the government works for US. What Beto is advocating is the violent illegal seizing of OUR self defense weapons, an action the government is expressing forbidden from taking.

NEED TO BE ACQUAINTED WITH A COMPLETE SET OF MIDDLE FINGERS: Those Who Demand Obedience.

 

My experience with video games amounts to playing a couple times at a friend’s house in the late ‘80’s. My opinion is that their abuse in some cases is a symptom of problems that do contribute to violence. The lack of sufficient parental involvement in kid’s lives, physical inactivity, and failure to find more constructive ways to pass time or recreate.

Yeh, I’m going to go put my bunker gear on now so flame away...

Oh, I have no desire to place controls of any kind at any level on games. Everyone should play as much as they like.

 

Well there you go being reasonable and logical and pointing out that the parents lack of involvement is the single common denominator in a vast majority of the cases complained of, and its not an inanimate object stirring its sticky fingers in the souls of those poor youts

 

That’s why I’ve said before we need to just buck up and learn to live with this form of violence because it isn’t going away until a generation after people concern themselves with correcting their own behavior rather than attempting to control the behavior of others. Parenting is the foundation where it will have to turn around if it ever does.

 

Exactly. Even if every parent and future parent in the nation turned their act around right now and did everything 100% correct, there are already ticking time bombs sitting there waiting to go off who will go off. More would hopefully be caught before they did anything serious and referred for mental health care if the parents were paying attention but some of them are going to slip past.
Even if we fixed the root of the problem today, we're still going to have to deal with the existing bloody harvest we've already planted.

Yet another reason I refuse to be disarmed.

 

I agree there is a bloody harvest in which we have invested billions.

Continuing planting to increase that harvest doesn't make sense, though.

Even if it costs in the short term, we need to work to end the harvest.

I know it's scary (at least to some), but the cost is being paid in the blood of those for whom your direction does absolutely nothing.

 

2018 had a significantly lower violent crime (and murder) rate than 2017. We are down to 1970 levels of violent crime. This is not an epidemic, as things are much better than they were in the mid 1990s. Gun control is just an attempt to control the population, not really to stop crime (which is at fairly low rates, historically speaking).

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/topic-pages/violent-crime

 

Well, I strongly believe that ignoring the issue of gun deaths in America is a totally unacceptable approach regardless of where we were last year or last century.

And, suggesting this is about "control" is preposterous. There is absolutely zero evidence of "control" being an objective.