I need an Explanation of how CO2 Causes Climate Change

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  1. Lord of Planar

    Lord of Planar New Member

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    Wow...

    What an innocent sounding name for eugenics:

    "The Swedish Society for Racial Hygiene"
     
  2. Lord of Planar

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    I'm not aware of climate models by them.

    Link please.
     
  3. Brett Nortje

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    Global warming is caused by too much matter and fluids changing forms. this form changing is caused by man and nature, as deserts formed by themselves due to the closeness of the sun to the earth. this has been gradual. but, the changes we make in the world we live in, from burning oil to cutting down trees, to building sky scrapers, will result in global warming - as energy changes forms,it excites the electron orbitals that make things warm, in the air, in the water... everywhere.

    This is a guess. i hope you can prove me wrong if you disagree. CO2 is just one factor.
     
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    as is water vapor, nitrogen, oxygen, argon, ozone, sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, I mean what a list!!!!

    But as we all know, CO2 changing from 0.0315% to 0.0390% over the better part of a century is CATASTROPHIC!!!! It makes hurricanes in the GOM disappear, hasn't changed surface temperatures in 15+ years, and causes nuclear winters in New England!!

    All quite distressing....which is the entire point of course. If you aren't slack jawed and drooling in fear, having nightmares over the effects of warming, and driving a Prius then you are a denier!!
     
  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    CO2 is good in this case.

    http://www.csiro.au/Portals/Media/Deserts-greening-from-rising-CO2.aspx
     
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    Why does it really matter? Climate change happens regardless of Man's input to the environment. Why play shell games with Statism instead of finding better solutions at lower cost?
     
  7. Brett Nortje

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    Well, I posted the obvious which is observational science as opposed to computer model alarmism.
     
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    Yep and when the earth was warmer there was more arable land. When the earth warms it does not warm unilaterally but more towards the poles so more land is tillable land north and south of the equator when it warms.
     
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    No, they have made statements independent of the IPCC
     
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    Actually, most are just studies that are interpreted by the IPCC which reports to politicians on what the small cadre in charge of the report wish to convey. Many of those alleged 'deniers' like John Christy and Judy Curry have contributed to the IPCC.
     
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    Some do some do not
     
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    Could you explain further? please give me examples.
     
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    Like any change, different plants grow better such as the shifting tree line which has been higher because it was warmer.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/12/111214094650.htm
     
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    Well, it would seem the intent of my remarks may have been over your head...
     
  18. Brett Nortje

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    Can you try to explain it to me again? the way i see it, it is like a pressure cooker of sorts, where, there is a build up of heat as liquid and matter become gases, gases that are heated by the change of form. if we were to wait a while, it would cool down, but, we are adding to this effect everyday.
     
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    I asked for a link where Svante Arrhenius and Guy Callender had climate models.
     
  20. Bowerbird

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    Hmmm and to grow they need water - whereas evidence suggests that as the tropics warm there will be less rainfall

    http://m.livescience.com/10472-deserts-grow-tropics-expand.html

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    You ARE joking are you not??
     
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    Yet that hot spot is missing.

    And the deserts are greening.

    Deserts 'greening' from rising CO2

    Again you mistake conjecture, hypothesis, and opinion for observational science.

    Flashback 1971: Hansen’s climate model says ice age to occur by 2021
     
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    The extraordinary sea surface temperatures of the Northeast Pacific are known to be responsible for the record high global surface temperatures in 2014.

    Atmospheric controls on northeast Pacific temperature variability and change, 1900–2012

     
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    They didn't have climate models. That was my point.
     
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    Well, for the CO2 fanatics there is this.

    [video=youtube_share;UaZb0r4G_Gc]http://youtu.be/UaZb0r4G_Gc[/video]

    Then there is this.

    Arctic sea ice volumes in the autumn of 2014 are above the average set over the last five years and sharply up on the lows seen in 2011 and 2012, according to the latest satellite data from cryostat-2.
     
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    More climate hysteria as in this is hysterical.

    Naomi Klein runs amok. Remember, this is one of people pushing the climate alarmism.

    Why #BlackLivesMatter Should Transform the Climate Debate

     

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