I really thought I would be happier

The truth about the Trump administration is out in the open regarding this idiotic scheme hatched by Trump, Guiliani and the three stooges Perry, Volker and Sondland. Our ally the Ukraine is being sold out while Trump’s buddy Putin attempts to make them part of the Soviet Union again.

 

It should have read, 'You didn't you tried a lame dodge". Unfortunately I didn't catch it in the requisite fifteen minutes. I've been rather busy this morning.

 

Of course the Truth is out there, and it's really obvious, the Dems stepped in it. Trump, knowing full well that there were likely people listening in through Uncle Joe and his kid in at the end knowing full well that the Dems couldn't resist the need to defend one of their own no matter how corrupt, and of course spread the crap all over the paper claiming it wasn't corrupt, an argument that only flies in beltway circles and Joe goes from running away with it to trailing Warren in most polls mission accomplished.

 

Trump’s point man, hand grenade Rudy has been exposed for the dupe that he is. His association with the two Russian agents, Igor and Lev who are tied to fugitive Putin tool and Russian Mob associate Dmytro Firtash have exposed what this whole deal is all about. Guiliani was waving affidavits around on TV a few weeks ago that he got from mobster Firtash in Vienna. Firtash is currently out on $100 million bail fighting extradition to the US on bribery and corruption charges. What the hell is Trumps lawyer doing hanging around with a bunch of Russian Mobsters? Now we find that the fugitive Russian Mobster Firtash has hired Fox News TV lawyer Joe diGenova and his skanky wife to defend him. It certainly appears that Trump, Guiliani and Fox News are all in the bag for the Russian Mob.

 

1st no one has close Rudy us tied to these and the article you offer is little more than rank speculation based on little more than wishful thinking

 

“1st no one has close Rudy us tied to these”.........WTF?????

I guess Russian/English translate program is malfunctioning...

 

Have you never noticed that the letter 'u' is right next to the letter 'i', on most keyboards?

 

He's whittled down the professional staff at the White House as well as several of the biggest executive departments like State, Defence, Justice, and Homeland Security to the point where few of those left know what they're doing. Just look at the fiasco he has now, with WH staff completely unglued from the normal processes like transcribing calls. Most of the people left are his loyalists, but loyal to him, not the country. He hires people based on that loyalty alone.

You really want four more years of that getting steadily worse? The wheels are just starting to come off, like this horrible deal of withdrawing from Syria, leaving the Kurds and others in the region to be divvied up by Putin, Erdogan, and Assad. Honestly, I don't understand the mindset of anyone who thinks Trump is "doing just fine." He's effing up our relationship with allies all over the world, and has made us the bad guys in many respects. This may be your America, but it isn't the "shining beacon" that I was raised to love and honor.

 

Some real delicate sensibilities in this thread

 

No one right now has any idea how close Rudi's ties are or even if they exist beyond one luncheon.

 

Draining the swamp was one of Trump's campaign promises. Getting rid of people who oppose the president's agenda only makes sense. I didn't and don't agree with the Syrian withdrawal, but he seems to have salvaged the situation. I didn't and don't agree with Trump's refusal to retaliate against Iran for their shooting down our drone and bombing half of Saudi Arabia's oil wells, but Iran hasn't made any more moves since then, so who knows.

 

U too huh....

 

Once Trump invited Manafort in, he brought his own swamp of Russian Mobsters/Intel/Government (all interchangeable) operatives into Washington. With the arrests of Igor, Lev and others last week its becoming apparent whose bidding Guiliani and Trump are doing. Guiliani was working with Manafort attorney’s while Manafort was pretending to be cooperating with the US government. In reality they are all still loyal to the Russian tools who were working together in Ukraine on Putin’s behalf. What the hell is Trump’s attorney doing consorting with Firtash who is a fugitive from US justice and the two Sputniks he was lunching with right before they were arrested as they were absconding to Vienna? Rudy and Trump really got some ‘splainin’ to do here.

 

Trump didn't drain the swamp, he turned it into a cesspool.

I agree that a president should be able to hire people who support his agenda, but it would be a vast improvement if he would hire competent people instead of clueless sycophants. It would also benefit all of us if he would actually listen to experts in things like foreign policy and counterintelligence, but he's the "stable genius" who claims to know more than any expert on any subject, and that makes him a dangerous fool, IMO.

 

I haven't been following any of the "Russia Russia Russia!" business at all, so I can't speak to any of that. What I will note here is that Ukraine and Russia's interests are contrary to each other, so whatever support we give Ukraine is a poke in the eye to Putin. So it's kind of odd to say that whatever we were doing in the Ukraine was following Russia's bidding.

And yet still no WWIII. I hold a pretty dim view of Trump myself as noted elsewhere, but he continues to surprise me.

 

Trump has feverishly tried to reverse the pro Ukranian anti Russian policies which were put in place during the Obama Biden years. He hired Manafort, a pro Putin tool and criminal who was trying to undermine the Ukranian Republic on behalf of Putin for years. What does that tell you? The two Sputnik guys arrested at Dulles a couple weeks ago were funneling money from Russian Mobsters into GOP campaigns. These two crooks have been photographed with Guiliani, Trump and both of his kids several times in the past year. What are Mobsters like this doing palling around with Guliani and the Trumps?

 

Regarding "... whatever support we give Ukraine is a poke in the eye to Putin. So it's kind of odd to say that whatever we were doing in the Ukraine was following Russia's bidding."

Why do you think Trump is so desperate to have officials in Ukraine investigate (make up stuff to support) the tin foil hat conspiracy theory that it was Ukraine, not Russia, that interferred in the 2016 election? And on Hillary's behalf? With a DNC server sitting in some office in Ukraine? That is Putin's false narrative, given to Trump long ago. Who do you think gives our president his marching orders, and has from the beginning? And who do you think wants us to stop giving aid to Ukraine?

This entire impeachment process came about as a result of Trump holding up congressionally allocated military aid for Ukraine to use to fight off Putin's army, in order to 1) get dirt on a rival and 2) "prove" Putin's false narrative about the 2016 election. Trump got caught, he admitted he did it, and he's getting impeached for it. The rest of this noise we're currently getting from the right is desperation because they know he's guilty, so they are picking on the process because that's all they have.

Here's Trump, the guy you said you'd like another four years of: "I don't care. I believe Putin." -- said in 2017 to our country's top intelligence professionals when they told him something contradictory to what Putin had told him in a phone call.

 

Are you going to cite the sources he failed to? Or you just flamebaiting

 

I'm neither happy nor sad that justice is arriving at the Oval Office. Trump, since day one, has mounted a war against all of America's bedrock institutions by labeling them "deep state" and striping them of their responsibilities to the America people. His wanton destruction of our Department of State and replacing it with his department of gut instinct has created disasters it will take a decade to ameliorate. He has ignored our intelligence agencies, our military, and every cabinet office replacing it all with his divine wisdom.

Trump is a man of the eighteenth century, not the twenty first and is neither able or willing tolerant the difference. He has been a dangerous disaster to America, our systems of laws, our Constitution, and our sacred honor. He is an arrogant fool and I cannot imagine anything more dangerous to our democracy, our place in the world, and our place in history. That's as far as my sympathy goes.

 

??????? Hearsay four times removed, iced it???

 

The thing is that Trump won the election. The power is vested in the people. The people elected him and his policies. Unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats do not have any authority to supplant the people's will. Nor does the other party.

I didn't support McConnell's obstructions. I just ignored the entire Obama era. Now that we have someone defending America, I'm all in. If enough people don't want the country to move in this direction, they can vote him out and return to managed decline.

All of these hoaxes are immoral.

 

You must think they haven't talked to the other guys.

 

The whole Russia thing has been thoroughly debunked, so all of this sounds like conspiracy theory bullshit. No one gives Trump marching orders. Trump is way too much of a narcissist to listen to anyone but himself.

I pointed this out elsewhere, but the problem with the Ukraine phone call is that you have no mens rea. You have no intent. If Trump was in fact asking the Ukrainians to investigate corruption (Hunter Biden), then there's no corruption on Trump's part. And you can't show that's not exactly what he was doing. This whistle-blower who won't come forward, won't testify, and won't swear gives you exactly nothing. It's why Pelosi won't bring it to a vote... she knows she's got nothing.

 

Debunked? I'm guessing you didn't read the Mueller report.