I rode past the ghetto. It was still there. Trump lied.

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by bhoyal, Nov 17, 2016.

  1. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A better location would be the area they're in, with a mindset of governance that saw potential again, for that area. Much cheaper, & profitable all 'round.
     
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    disagree, be like saying a gold mining town would of been better hanging around collecting welfare hoping they could attract new business someday in the future rather then moving where the jobs were

    when the jobs go, and they are not coming back.. time to become a ghost town

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    How about they all move to your neighborhood? Or that of Hillary? Let's see what happens then.
     
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    Isn't that what all of you democrats said about Trump? And how wrong you were for reason that you refuse to attempt to understand.
     
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    I supported Trump in the beggining, so I can see why some supported him

    but I base my opinion on the results of the election, common sense is that of more democrats had been motivated to vote, Trump woudl of lost

    heck, had Trump picked Palin as a VP, he would of lost as that would of got the dem vote out

    Trump only won cause of the dems that did not get out to vote, that is the reality of it

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    ah, so now the truth comes out... do you want to help them or keep them contained.....???

    did you read my above post, I said if they all moved to one location it would not work, they have to be dispersed, one family per town, otherwise they bring the crime with them and people leave the new town

    if you do not want them to come to your town, why do you think a business woudl move to their town? that was my point..... your making my point for me.. their old town will never be again... the jobs are gone and not coming back

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    And, as with a majority of democrats, you continue to live in the land of speculation and what if. What you speculate did not happen, you lost the election, get over it and quit whining.
     
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    Much as you protest, that is not what you said. Besides, point in fact, I supplied two locations to you. Just because the truth is that you want them nowhere near you does not mean that the pain should be spread to a multitude of areas.

    Those like you wish for a perfect solution and there is none, with the exception of forcing personal responsibility
    on them. As long as the government deigns to provide the all they could possibility want while requiring nothing in return, that is not going to happen.
     
  9. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An invalid comparison. Gold is a finite resource. Unless you're implying that American or better put, human motivation & ingenuity are too, finite resources. Jobs have come & gone since, ... Well, jobs began.
     
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    4 Americans died whilst Obama and Hillary lied. How'd you like to be the guy who produced a video falsely claimed by Obama, Hillary and his administration as the reason four Americans were murdered? Then jailed because of the notoriety thrust upon the video and lose your right of free movement and jailed for the attention the Obama Admin cast on you? The father of lies must surely be pleased.
     
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    Could you possibly elaborate more on this please? It's not clear what your message is.
     
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    the comparison is that the jobs are gone, that is the same in both cases, bringing new jobs back in both cases is next to imposible
     
  13. Just_a_Citizen

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    Nothing is impossible, if the will is there. My own personal life is testimony to that.

    You want to give up, fine. Don't force those with a will to endeavor to persevere to capitulate as well. They are American citizens. They are our brothers & sisters. THEY have done nothing wrong.
     
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    I know a failed thread when I see one...
     
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    Well it would be better if we had just elected Obama.

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    The truth is a meltdown?
     
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    See you are learning. The rich already pay a higher percentage than the non rich. They are however going to pay much less than they did before the Trump tax cuts. That is why the projections for the defecit under Trump are expected to be much higher than before his tax cuts.
     
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    What you were going to address was to post all those metrics you keep claiming are so much worse than when Obama took office. But of course you keep trying to change the subject since your claim is clearly untrue.
     
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    See you can't actually post any data to back your claims.
     
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    Except for deductions, write-offs, loopholes, tax breaks which allow the likes of Warrant Buffet to pay less taxes than his secretary according to his own admission.

    That said - you lost, your agenda (not that the libs have one) has been utterly rejected and the liberal idiocy about tax cuts for the poor (who pay no taxes in the first place) is dead. Trump is not there to implement liberal agenda and Obama did not implement liberal agenda either because it's sheer lunacy.

    Trump's tax plan is the plan to simplify and revamp the entire tax code and give tax cuts to taxpayers.... Needless to say, people paying millions in taxes will get a bigger tax cut in absolute numbers than those who don't pay or pay a few hundred buck. Duh
     
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    I sure can. The vote in swing states like PA, WI, FL, NC, MI etc on 11/8 proved beyond any doubt that you libs and your subservient media are talking to themselves and showing these bogus numbers to each other and normal hard working Americans voting with their wallets know better than to pay attention to liberal delusions, establishment lies and misleading, meaningless numbers manufactured by the elites for the elites to fool the masses. :D
     
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    A mindset of governance is going to do absolutly nothing unless either the government is willing to spend a great deal of money to bring jobs to the ghetto or the government can find a way to incentivize private industry to create jobs in the ghetto. Neither party has been able to do either and so far neither party has been willing to make the effort necessary to provide equal access to education for all which just might change the situation over the long term..
     
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    You mean metrics like the national debt that has doubled under Obama and has reached the levels not seen since WWII, the skyrocketing income inequality, the astronomical cost of Healthcare and the collapse of Obamacare, the shrinkage of the middle class and declining median wages....? I've posted these metrics many times.... Lest we forget the total collapse of the US foreign policy under Obama/Hillary/Liberals
     
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    Wow, so now you get it. The main beneficiaries of the Trump tax cuts will be the rich. The rest of you can only hope that trickle down actually will actually provide you some crumbs from the table.

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    So you actually think you just posted numbers. How cute!
     
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    First of course those are not metrics. Second the spike in national debt was to save the country from the Bush recession. Third by any measure ISIS is now losing. And finally the problems with a shrinking middle class, income stagnation, income inequality and healthcare started way before Obama. He, his predecessors and the Congress have failed for thirty years to solve those problems and so far I see nothing in Trump's promises that will solve those issues either. But of course time will be the deciding factor and since Trump will have a Republican Congress there will be no excuses.
     
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    The poor who don't pay taxes will go on not paying taxes so you and your ilk have nothing to worry about. :D The main beneficiaries of the Trump tax proposal will be ALL american taxpayers who will get a streamlined simple and fair system of taxation and a tax cut in the process, the rich will lose their loopholes, deductions, write-offs and will pay their fair share....
     

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