I say Democrats will be to blame

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  1. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    Yup. That’s an opinion. And since this forum is for political opinions, I’d like to share my opinion on this.

    It is obvious that Trump wants to end the 200-year experiment in democracy that is this country, and replace it with an authoritarian/totalitarian country with him as the founder and dictator. But that’s just obvious and known by everyone who isn’t dedicated to hiding it and pretending otherwise.

    So if it happens and the Republicans realize their dream of a one-party dictatorship with Trump at the helm, whose fault would it be? I say it would be the Democrats’ fault. Everything needed to end this insanity is available. There are laws, the Constitution, executive orders, emergency powers, The Insurrection Act, the military, . . . . . EVERYTHING needed to protect and defend the country is available. So if the RW extremists “win” and take over, it is only the Democrats fault for not having enough interest, enough spine, enough courage to do it. We know Trump intends to destroy the USA as we’ve known it. STOPPING him is necessary. So if he isn’t stopped, the entire blame falls on the Democrats.

    Amirite?
     
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    What emergency powers and how would they be applied?
     
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    So blame the victim and not the criminal. Got it.
     
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    It’s not about blame. It’s about who should stop it and how. Unfortunately, the Democrats would go down in history as the ones who failed to step up to the plate to solve the problem.
     
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    Yes it is,
     
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    No you’re not right. I’m no supporter of Trump but I’ll say to you the same thing I say to those on the Right who keep trying to claim the Dems want to turn the US into a one-party dictatorship….there is a reason the founding fathers set up our govt of checks and balances. There is a reason there is a House AND a Senate both of which consist of members from BOTH parties. This claim from both sides that the other side wants to become a one-party dictatorship is complete and utter nonsense.
     
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    Is that why democrats rig elections, because in their mind democracy only works when they're in charge? Look at all the things that get banned and all the restrictions we have in place and ask yourself who put almost all of them there?

    Here's a chart showing which states are most and least free. Yellow is the most free, dark blue is the least free. Who runs the least free states? This is where your republican authoritarian/totalitarian argument falls flat.

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    No. Our politicians took an oath. They work presumably in our interest, for us….. At least they are SUPPOSED to. So it is the Democrats’ job to counter the Republicans and to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.

    The Republicans are already outside the Constitution, having thoroughly violated and renounced their own oath of office. And thus the Democrats are not victims. They are the solution if they obey their oath.
     
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    Nonsense? When I see a party twisting the laws, interfering with fair elections to steal the election, refusing to participate in normal debate, compromise, and coming to a bipartisan solution, and instead demanding they get their way, I know fascist dictatorship is not a nonsensical concern.
     
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    No. You aren't 'right'. Hopefully this is your attempt at parody. You think that the voters rejecting Democrats is an 'insurrection' and you want Biden to unconstitutionally remain in power through the intervention of the armed forces.

    Are you guys really this blind to how extreme and dangerous you are becoming in your thinking? This is bunkered, blinkered and wholly wrong-headed.

    I would advise you to get out and interact more with folks who disagree with you, who challenge your thinking, and then listen.

    Remember, Government Power is only legitimate, if with the consent of the governed, it acts to secure OUR individual rights.

    Losing an election and remaining in office via military coup, is NOT legitimate government. In fact, trying that could probably result in a number of folks getting the most severe of lawful consequences after lawful constitutional order was restored.

    Good Lord.
     
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    No. You are not right. You come up with the 'plan' and exactly which tools you expect 'the Dems' to use, and then we will discuss on this forum what a crappy plan you have, or what an illegal plan your have, or what a dangerous plan you have, or what a practically impossible plan you have.

    I will tear all these half baked, un researched, hypocritical, or ludicrous 'plans' of yours apart. It won't even be hard, considering the tool chest you just opened above.
     
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    If Trump is sooooo bad, the only thing Dems need do is run a fair to middling candidate against him and viola….no more “danger” from Trump!

    If Trump is our next president, yeh, it’s the Democrat’s fault for running a WORSE candidate! It’s so simple, why try and make it complicated?
     
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    Nope, the voters.
     
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    I hope this is not you actually attempting to claim that Democrats don't violate the constitution?
     
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    Well not the entire blame, Republican politicians and their dupes get a lot of credit.
    When Jane got run over by a train Dudley was complicit in that had he not chosen to finish his latte he could have arrived before the train but it still was Snidely whiplash that tied her to the tracks in the first place.
     
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    :shock:

    Why aren’t you arguing AGAINST his proposition and FOR this great American experiment called The United States?

    How can it be that an American is challenging the validity of the tools to available to SAVE our great Nation?

    Has the right really gone off the cliff with tRaitor tRump and are put putting him in power, over the Nation they supposedly love?

    Is that what MAGA has come to mean?
    DESTROY AMERICA NOW

    Cheese and Rice! :eyepopping:
     
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    “The Government has no power to protect itself from tyranny?”

    You can’t mean that!

    Are you really showing your true colors are “tRaitor tRump at ANY cost”?
     
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    Yup. If you think about it, what has the Republican party in the House put forward this term that actually creates or builds something other than pork?
     
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    So what you’re saying is you don’t understand how our govt is set up and why it was set up that way. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    What? Democrats aren’t voters? Well, isn’t that an interesting point of view!
     
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    But it does have the authority to stop someone who is trying to end it.
     
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    Don't independents have a role to play? I don't think can win the election. But I am concerned about a rogue juror, maybe a Trump cult member, ignoring the evidence against him at trial. Just like the Repub senators did when he was impeached.
     
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    Yes, it would not take much to beat Trump in the general election if the Democrats could run someone other than Biden. Newsom has the looks of the perfect president from Hollywood casting. He’s failed miserably in California, but given the antipathy that 50% of the voters have toward Trump, Newsom would be unbearable.
     
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