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I say it is the same thing

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Nov 12, 2019.

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  1. pitbull

    pitbull Banned Donor

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    Please look here: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/01/how-russia-helped-to-swing-the-election-for-trump

    Maybe he's not the only one. But as a former KGB officer, he hates the US all his life. In the former Soviet Union and also in Russia, people are brainwashed to hate the free world.

    Vlad has weird friends like the crazy killers Kadyrow and Assad. That makes him even more unsympathetic. Vlad himself is also a felon. He should be convicted by an international criminal court.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/mar/05/russia.chechnya
     
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    Just_a_Citizen, Nov 13, 2019
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    Seizing private land to build a wall should have provided a clue:)

    We’re not dealing with conservatives.
     
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    Screw that childish balloon. Boo hoo.
     
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    Per the United States Flag Code the appropriate method of DISPOSAL of a US flag is to burn them.

    https://www.aflag.com/flag-etiquette/american-flag-disposal/

    The US Coast Guard even has an official ceremony for burning flags.

    http://wow.uscgaux.info/content.php?unit=070-08-01&category=us-flag-retirement
     
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  6. pitbull

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    Not "any non-American posting anything" but definitely a member of Putin's Troll Army. :)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_web_brigades
     
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    I personally like the Baby Trump Balloon. Donald just lacks humor.
     
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    I assume you meant “as long as it is considered”. If so, yes.
     
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    I didn't read the story (there was no link or anything) but I believe you. That being said, maybe that trump balloon belonged to someone so isn't it destruction of property then?
     
    Darthcervantes, Nov 13, 2019
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    Wow. Never heard any of that before. :)
    You’ve confirmed for me that free speech is speech you approve of. That’s what I was looking for.

    Perhaps you should research and ponder the motives of those foreign influences you approve of because they agree with your biases. :)
     
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    You said money is your red line. I meant exactly what I wrote. I’m trying to confirm that any foreign help is fine as long as “money” doesn’t change hands. The definition of “money” isn’t exactly easy to pin down.
     
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    Aside from the message it sends, if a person destroys someone else's property, he has violated a law. It could have nothing to do with the symbolism. What we do is the clearest statement of who we are. As we watch the hate-circus, we all need to remember that we are seeing the moral parameters that the left sets for itself, and realize that those same parameters would be there in any position they might hold.

    That should scare hell out of the rank and file democrats everywhere.
     
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    Perfect excuse for childish and criminal vandalism.
     
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    Ah, well then I misunderstood you or you misunderstood me. When it comes to private citizens of foreign origin anything short of financial contribution is free speech, assuming their actions are not criminal in nature. Any official action by foreign governments aimed at influencing elections is not free speech and should be viewed as election interference. Does that make it clear?
     
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    Look how the left here, defend aunty fay, I dont give a damn, screw that balloon.
     
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    The right: party of freedom and property rights unless, unless they hate you.
     
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    LOL, screw the balloon, The left= gunbrabbers, pretends to give a damn about "property rights".
     
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    That man destroyed someone else's property. That is illegal. Same as burning someone else's flag. However you have every right to burn your own flag or your own baby trump balloon.
     
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    Probably because its too small of a crime to devote police attention. The balloon costs $4,500, a MAGA hat doesn't.
     
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    No, each individual flag belongs to the person who bought it. If you bought a flag, I can't go into your yard and take it, because its your flag not mine.
     
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    So the right doesn’t either, evidently. According to you at least.
     
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    I could care less about the stupid balloon and I only speak for myself. I dont speak for the "right".
     
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    A snatch and grab is a strongarm robbery, correct?
     
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    Gotcha. Welp you enjoy yourself in hating that balloon now.
     
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