I say the best possible government is the least possible government

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  1. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Okay, I can see where this is headed.

    I have no interest in playing the semantics game.

    Good day, sir.
     
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    Allow me to help you out...again...

     
  3. Montegriffo

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    To enforce the rules needed to maintain a society.
     
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    Rules like "no taking other people's stuff"?
     
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    Right. Rules imposed by the state. We need them why?
     
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    So then you don’t think we need laws. Interesting. I suppose we could have a society where people are free to murder, rape, steal, etc without consequences.
     
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    Too bad it's just not in human nature for that to occur. Evert candidate for political office runs on promised to create a better government managed Utopia. Once in office they are busy, busy, busy trying to appease and benefit special interest groups by writing more laws, more regulations, and free government subsides for one group, or to punish the other. Then it's rinse, repeat when they run for reelection.
     
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    If that's what you want. I think society should not condone murder, rape, or theft. But YMMV.
     
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    So then you DO want laws. Cool.
     
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    No, I don't support a state. I thought that was clear. States are criminal gangs writ large.
     
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    So then you don’t want laws. Geez...you’re all over the place. When you figure out what you actually want let me know.
     
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    I thought I made that clear. I oppose the state. It is a criminal organization writ large.
     
  13. Montegriffo

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    That's an obvious one.
    Don't poison the rivers and make sure you maintain that aircraft properly are a couple I can think of which are best not left to self regulation.
     
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    Nobody self-regulates. Well, at least not many. If you poison a river, your neighbors will regulate the **** out of you.
     
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    I doubt it, they'll be too busy fighting off looters in your world.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    And again I'll ask you to please provide a single example, in the entire human history of forever, where a "no state" society has ever existed, and it was a good thing.
     
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    You’ve been about as clear as mud.
     
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    When has any society every existed in the entire course of human history that did not have slaves?
     
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    Didn't I clearly say that I consider the state a criminal gang writ large. Was that not clear enough?
     
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    Why would any society allow looters? That seems dumb.
     
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    You’ve been going back and forth on whether or not you think we should have any laws. Clear as mud
     
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    The state is a criminal organization writ large. Does that clarify things for you?
     
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    Ok great...but what does that have to do with you questioning why we need any laws at all?

     
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    It has to do with state edicts as opposed to morality. The state is a criminal organization write large.
     
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    So you don’t like laws being enforced. Got it.
     

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