See, you make my point for me -- the "procreation" angle is just a dodge for "I don't like gay marriage". The whole argument is BS -- the point is to make up an argument for something that you can't argue for on a real basis. So you made up "procreation" which isn't checked for unless the couple is gay. Even if the infertility of a straight couple should be obvious to small children. I know a dodge when I see one. You just make up a standard that means nothing to anyone else and then declare that your reason makes sense as a justification when it literally does not matter to anyone that doesn't fit your target demographic. Like pretending that you don't want teens at your mall when you allow white kids but not black kids. If the standard only matters when it's a group you don't like, then the standard is an excuse to discriminate. That's what you're doing. it's not that you want marriages to be for people to raise kids, but that you hold to that because if you didn't you didn't you'd lose the one excuse to prevent gays from getting married. So it's about procreation when that standard is not used on other couples. For something to actually NOT be discrimination, it applies to all people in the same situation. If it doesn't it's discrimination.
You really dont have a clue. Legal court precedent, A REAL basis for directly refuting your views based upon emotion and hormones.
Yea, every recent federal court has called bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on your argument. citing state court decisions or 30+ year old federal decisions is pretty useless at this point.
And still, California limits marriage to a man and a woman and DOMA is the law of the land in 50 states. Its obvious which cases are useless at this point.
Actually, it is the judicial process that renders them useless at this point. Would seem it is you that cant grasp the process.
So they have the right to marry as long as they marry the people you feel they should, regardless their their attraction or love for those people. So back to Germany you Nazi scum.
Youll need to actually contradict something Ive said. Your typical, generic denials, void of even a shred of substance, is what is useless here.
you've lost in ever federal court for the past 5 years. you ignorantly claim it has had no effect on marriage in any of the states in contention. I simply am pointing out your ignorance of the US judicial process.
And youve not denied this fact. Like I said, if you can locate your nads, youll need to actually contradict something Ive said.
Already have. Your ignorance of the US jidicial process is not my problem. If you had any nads you would come up with some new arguments, since all your old ones have long since been refuted
I made no assertions about my knowledge of the "US jidicial process". Like I said, youll need to actually contradict something Ive said.
Would take less effort to actually put into words, what it is you disagree with, than it would to repeat 5 times that you already have. Why dont you? misplaced the nads again?
You never have. You merely copy and paste the post where you claimed you had at some point in the past. Why not copy and paste the post where you actually did so, instead of repeating 5 times the post where you claimed you had. Here is my statement and the sum total of your response at this point
my original post.......... your response......... and my reply........ I can't help your ignorance of the US judicial process.
Now string together a few words, relevant to the topic of discussion. Hint: I am not the topic of discussion.