I told you, there is a cure for homosexuality.

if that's all it is there's nothing to be cured from you just change your mind.

well not really science in this at all.

I'm not so sure he did.

 

If by that, you mean that subjective experiences are measured, then sure. As long as it's properly blinded and controlled. That's a completely different thing.

 

WIth a supposed degree in biology no less

 

Well you certainly have no shortage of opinions...sadly that's all you have

 

Things that are man-made are not natural.

 

A "cure for homosexuality"?

Sure its in the pill bottle between the one marked "cure for self righteous ignorance" and " cure for religious bigotry"

 

Funny I thought conservatives all believed in minding their own business and allowing people freedom

 

Homosexuality hurts no one and rainbow flags hurt no one.

People need to learn to mind their own business and allow freedom

 

I asked what being a homosexual was earlier in the thread but received no responses to that question.

Thank you for your input.

But scientifically there has to be lines drawn and you have offered nothing of that.

Is it sex or attraction that makes a person gay?

 

She didn't mean all that obvious stuff like civilization, nuh ahhh.

 

No they believe in you minding your own business while they have the freedom to make rules for you to live under.

 

Attraction to the same sex and not the opposite sex makes someone gay.

Attraction to both sexes make someone bisexual.

If you have a degree in biology how do you not know this???

 

Yes they are because man made them.

Is a beaver damn natural?

What about a tree planted by a man, is that natural? It wouldn't exist if man didn't plant it.

Man is part of nature just as the beaver is and just as the tree is, we all came from the same thing and we all coexist in the same world.

If we build an airplane how is that different than a tree building an acorn?

What if that tree adapts the acorn to have limited flight to carry it further away while we develop a new airplane to carry us further away?

Isn't that all natural?

 

Attraction. There are lines drawn, just about every study that attempts to analyze human sexuality have specific perimeters.

Just like a person that has never had sex with the opposite sex can still be classified as heterosexual

 

I know of it, it's not conclusive.

Hence the debate.

But here, since you want to test my biology degree let me delve into your hypothesis.

You say attraction is what makes someone gay but what is attraction based on?

Is attraction used in nature to procreate?

 

nat·u·ral
/ˈnaCH(ə)rəl/
adjective

1. 1.
   existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind.

na·ture
/ˈnāCHər/
noun

1. 1.
   the phenomena of the physical world collectively, including plants, animals, the landscape, and other features and products of the earth, as opposed to humans or human creations.

 

Well now that definition would seem to put humans outside the realm of nature with throws a big red flag up to evolution doesn't it?

Do you believe humans came from somewhere else outside of nature?

A God perhaps?

Per that definition that is what we could surmise.

Remember that all online definition finders may not be accurate, you can't post one and claim that it is the only definition out there.

 

Which “god” are you referring to?

 

Oh...so you believe in multiple gods. Interesting.

 

So his new woman is a chick with a d**k?

 

I think there is a possibility that all Gods worshipped are actually the same God appealing to different peoples and cultures in a way that is more easy for them to accept.

It would be unrealistic to think that one version of God could be acceptable to everyone on Earth.

So it may not be the actual name you call Him by but the fact that you are actually faithful to Him which matters.

That would make sense to me.

Zeus could very well be Jesus or Allah or any number of different names but it's all still God.

 

Not really, humans view ourselves as the dominate life form and as being such have decided our actions exist outside of nature. Nature doesn’t invent — it evolves.

Perhaps, I don’t claim to know or understand if a god or gods exist.
If a god or gods exist I do not believe we would be able to define or comprehend that entity.

Until they are proven however I do not think religious belief of a few individuals should overrule the beliefs or practices of others.

I never claimed it is the only definition, just the most readily available one. Most people accept natural as meaning occurring in nature. Airplanes do not occur in nature — now you could certainly argue that humans exist in nature and thus our inventions are natural but that goes against commonly held thought and deserves its own thread.

 

What is it about the conservative brain that makes them obsess over where someone sticks their dick? I think a cure for that mental disorder would be far more beneficial to the species than a 'cure' for homosexuality.

Spooky - you do you. As long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, what happens in the bedroom ain't your business or problem unless you're an active participant...

 

LOL....Sure I believe a murderer....

 

Fact: New Testament never says homosexuality is a sin.

...but it does say women shall not teach mean or have any positions of authority over men.