I was soo wrong.

spiritgide · Jan 24, 2020

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For months I advocated that Pelosi not march into a sham trial with a cooked verdict and the rules of the game stacked to turn the case into a PR victory for Trump. I was outraged at the pure partisan pettiness of the GOP, and I thought Mitch McConnell the master of parliamentary and procedural tactics, would so box in any House managers, that they simply would be unable to make a case. It seemed to me that we should do what we could do, and impeach, but turn away from a foregone and inevitable outcome, refuse them their prosecutors, and their acquittal and force them to dismiss, letting the public record in the House suffice. The case was going to be smothered to death in the senate, why leave them with our bodies as well?

I was dead wrong and many of my allies, here were 100% right, not just for political reasons, or to distract Trump from fomenting yet another scheme for the last 3 months which we have successfully done ( he's been fixated on what we have found, what we are saying and what we are doing here, and that is a very very good thing for not two, but three months) , but for history.

1. Pelosi was right to stall to provide time for more information, and pressure for witnesses, but knows that it was impossible to walk away once you start this process. The case is stronger now that it was a month ago.
2. She knows she has the talent and the experience in her caucus, and in her choice of committee chairs to come up with a first rate team of managers.
3. The record and the arguments in the Senate proceedings will cement the reputations of these Senators and this historic effort for decades.

I, a son of a prosecutor, somehow forgot the power of being right, and knowing you are right to provide dignity and clarity to the case, and the arguments, no matter how hard others try to mock and shield and sabatage.

We needed to go to trial, because the sobriety of the stakes involved, demanded one. I just got lost in the partisan grass.
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Still lost, and in the wrong neck of the woods. You mother should have told you not to hang out with bad company.

Gatewood · Jan 24, 2020

tecoyah said: ↑

And you sir.....sound like exactly what you are.
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An actual patriot?

Gatewood · Jan 24, 2020

Creasy Tvedt said: ↑

What color is the sky in your world?
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That would be rainbow colored according to recent leftist traditions.

garyd · Jan 24, 2020

opion8d said: ↑

The greatest value of the three days of Democratic prosecution is that the American public now knows, after a dearth of three years, the power of truth and fact. More importantly, they now know they are not alone in their thirst for justice and honesty in government. Americans, above all else, are fair minded and seek the same fairness and honesty in our courts, our government, and our day lives.

God commanded we not take His name in vain. He commanded we not bear false witness against our neighbors. If we cannot consider the power of these commandments to our rulers and ourselves, then the words, "under God" ring hollow in our pledge of allegiance. To diminish the impeachment as simply a political donnybrook is to deny the relevance of truth and justice in our daily lives.

If nothing else, the impeachment investigation and trial has revealed the underlying strength of America and its people. We now may rejoice in the revelation that America and its people still retain the honesty and character that makes us great. We may now rest assured, that cynics that discount this as a political exercise between rivals, will be held accountable in November.
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They heard nothing of truth from naddled, and schiftless, just lies butchered quotes and massive hyperbole. The only people convince by that act are people who already hate Trump.

Robert E Allen · Jan 24, 2020

btthegreat said: ↑

When I look back, there was nothing more Dems and and real patriots could do than what was done. We left no stone unturned, that would not have taken past November to turn. I give Pelosi all sorts of credit, as well as those Dems from swing or purple states, who actually pushed Pelosi to do this despite the risks in their home districts. As for those managers, they should sleep well despite the partisan results. They refused to allow themselves to be discouraged or baited by the pettiness, and the manipulative partisan gamesmanship from what was their singular duty.

Even if we lose seats, it was still worth doing. The country needed to be reminded of what honor, duty and integrity look like. They have not seen much in the last 3 years.

Our next job, is to haunt those 'moderate' republicans like Collins, and Murkowski, who are about to make a lot of speeches about how what the President did was wrong, how he needs to take stock of his behavior, and this vote should not be taken as a validation of what he did. IT IS VALIDATION, and these people did the validating. They covered his behind, and he has every right to feel emboldened that they will cover his behind every time. We need to follow these Senators and Congressmen everywhere they go, , shout them down, and make sure that they cannot get away from their votes to acquit.

They were Moscow Mitch's mercenaries just as much as Graham was and Nunes were.. When they try to backtrack on these votes, we just shove them right back in their boneless faces.
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House Democrats are not patriotic in the slightest. They are treacherous villains.

doombug · Jan 24, 2020

Robert E Allen said: ↑

House Democrats are not patriotic in the slightest. They are treacherous villains.
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True dat.

ArchStanton · Jan 24, 2020

btthegreat said: ↑

When I look back, there was nothing more Dems and and real patriots could do than what was done. We left no stone unturned, that would not have taken past November to turn. I give Pelosi all sorts of credit, as well as those Dems from swing or purple states, who actually pushed Pelosi to do this despite the risks in their home districts. As for those managers, they should sleep well despite the partisan results. They refused to allow themselves to be discouraged or baited by the pettiness, and the manipulative partisan gamesmanship from what was their singular duty.

Even if we lose seats, it was still worth doing. The country needed to be reminded of what honor, duty and integrity look like. They have not seen much in the last 3 years.

Our next job, is to haunt those 'moderate' republicans like Collins, and Murkowski, who are about to make a lot of speeches about how what the President did was wrong, how he needs to take stock of his behavior, and this vote should not be taken as a validation of what he did. IT IS VALIDATION, and these people did the validating. They covered his behind, and he has every right to feel emboldened that they will cover his behind every time. We need to follow these Senators and Congressmen everywhere they go, , shout them down, and make sure that they cannot get away from their votes to acquit.

They were Moscow Mitch's mercenaries just as much as Graham was and Nunes were.. When they try to backtrack on these votes, we just shove them right back in their boneless faces.
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You've got to be ******** me, trolling, or April Fools joke a bit early.

Nancy and her bitch Adam POSchiff, along with the Democrat swamp are bastardizing the constitution trying to run a silent coup on a duly elected President.

The Democrat Party has revealed itself for what others have known for years.....an enemy of the state.

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