IDF soldiers detain five-year-old Palestinian for stone-throwing in Hebron

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  1. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    Really......, and the source for that nonsense ?
     
  2. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    I said YOU cant be debated seriously, not the entire forum,

    I dont think you are in a position of telling others they are "in the wrong side" :)
     
  3. DrewBedson

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    Nice try however, moving the family of a soldier to bake bread for other support people is hardly the mark of a combatant or military person.
    As I said before, it is a unique situation for a unique nation. Most nations have a geographical obstacle to separate them from the belligerents and, only have those belligerents on one side. Israel has them on all and, are not a vast nation with a natural buffer zone hence, they need those reservists there all the time. To make it viable you need to have work and family nearby.

    Nah, let's just stick to reality. Israel didn't make this situation, the people who declared war on them did and now Israel just react to the nutters that want them all dead.
     
  4. moon

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    Lovely. You want to present the squatters as bagel support units. :mrgreen: You're a real gift to the Palestinian resistance. :mrgreen:
     
  5. moon

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    The Israeli army. Zionists, go home.
     
  6. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    Lovely, so you dont have a source, its just something Moon and that Israeli soldier know right ?
     
  7. moon

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    As I said- the Israeli army. It was their trasmission which was repeated in court. You REALLY don't know about this, do you ! :mrgreen:
     
  8. Gilos

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    Then show evidence Moon.
     
  9. moon

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    You know.......I don't think I will. :mrgreen: I might educate Zionist occupiers as a secondary effect of posting but I don't choose to make it of primary concern. Zionists, go home. You clearly don't know what's going on there.
     
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    You know.......I'm not a bit supprised :bye:
     
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    You must be. You aren't even aware of the transmission.



    Your cue to puff and prevaricate.
     
  12. Gilos

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    The trasmission a Hamas-Palestinian says exists but cannot prove..
     
  13. moon

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    Israeli courtroom evidence. Geez, I detest neoZionist wriggling. What else you got ?
     
  14. Gilos

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    All I ask is the source, a most reasonable request in face of such accusation,

    Now you say its a courtroom evidence? since you were not present in the courtroom I ask where does a Hamas-Palestinain has such evidence from ? did someone tell you about it? did you read it ? or do you hold the original docs ?

    And I also think its part of the forum rules, you make an accusation you need to supply a source, trusting a Palestinains when so many of your kind have lied in the past is not evidence Moon.

    ofc we both know the source is electric intifada so this is just a waste of time.
     
  15. Marlowe

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    How's this for a source :

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    An Israeli army officer who fired the entire magazine of his automatic rifle into a 13-year-old Palestinian girl and then said he would have done the same even if she had been three years old was acquitted on all charges by a military court yesterday.


    Acquitted by a MILITARY COURT - and we all know what Israeli MILITARY courts are like>
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    The military court cleared the soldier of illegal use of his weapon, conduct unbecoming an officer and perverting the course of justice by asking soldiers under his command to alter their accounts of the incident.[/B]

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    A recording of radio exchanges between Capt R and his troops obtained by Israeli television revealed that from the beginning soldiers identified Iman as a child.


    FULL REPORT HERE :

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/nov/16/israel2








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    IlThe Supreme Court acquitted Channel 2 investigative journalist Ilana Dayan of libel Wednesday over a documentary report on the fatal shooting of 13-year-old Iman Darweesh Hams by IDF troops in the Gaza Strip in 2004.

    In a 2005 episode of the Uvda (“Fact”) news show, Dayan aired an audio recording of the communications between IDF soldiers at the military post during the incident. The documentary suggested an IDF commanding officer, identified only as Captain R., “verified” Darweesh al-Hams’s killing.
    ana Dayan acquitted of libeling 'Captain R'

    http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Ilana-Dayan-acquitted-of-libeling-Captain-R

    Israeli reporter insists IDF officer 'confirmed kill' of Gaza girl

    Ilana Dayan appeals defamation suit over her accusation that 'Captain R.' fired at Palestinian girl at close range. In her appeal Dayan stated that the program aired a live recording of Captain R.
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    Ilana Dayan acquitted of libeling 'Captain R'

    By JOANNA PARASZCZUK

    LAST UPDATED: 02/08/2012 18:31

    In accepting Dayan's appeal, court found her documentary was correct at the time of broadcast, so not defamatory.
    Israel's Supreme Court in J'lem [file]
    Israel's Supreme Court in J'lem [file] Photo: Reuters

    The Supreme Court acquitted Channel 2 investigative journalist Ilana Dayan of libel Wednesday over a documentary report on the fatal shooting of 13-year-old Iman Darweesh Hams by IDF troops in the Gaza Strip in 2004.

    In a 2005 episode of the Uvda (“Fact”) news show, Dayan aired an audio recording of the communications between IDF soldiers at the military post during the incident. The documentary suggested an IDF commanding officer, identified only as Captain R., “verified” Darweesh al-Hams’s killing.

    A military court acquitted Captain R. of all wrongdoing in November 2005.

    In 2009, Captain R. successfully sued Dayan and Telad, the former Channel 2 production company, for libel in the Jerusalem District Court. In that trial, Judge Noam Sohlberg ruled that Dayan and Telad had defamed Captain R., and awarded him NIS 300,000 in damages.

    Two months later, in February 2010, both Dayan and Telad appealed against the ruling in the Supreme Court. Captain R. also appealed the verdict, arguing that the damages the court awarded him were too low.

    In Wednesday’s ruling, Deputy Supreme Court President Eliezer Rivlin, Justice Uzi Vogelman and Justice Isaac Amit unanimously accepted Dayan’s appeal, and rejected Captain R.’s. The court also rejected Telad’s appeal, but ordered the production company to compensate Captain R. with the lesser sum of NIS 100,000.

    The panel of justices said that Dayan had not violated the 1965 Defamation Act, because the Uvda documentary included statements that were correct at the time of their broadcast. The court found that Dayan had based her story on credible sources and had taken reasonable steps to verify the facts. The journalist had also been of the belief that the facts were correct, the court said.

    Dayan’s documentary focused on an incident that took place in the morning of October 5, 2004 in a military observation post near the Philadelphi Route in the southern Gaza strip.

    After 13-year-old Hams approached the military post’s gate, an emergency alarm was activated and IDF soldiers opened fire in her direction.

    The Supreme Court verdict explains that the 13-year-old girl was shot as she tried to run away.

    Meanwhile, the the post’s commander, Captain R., ran towards the gate to verify that the intruder had been killed. However, at that time, the commanding officer was not aware of a report stating that the intruder was “a young girl of around 10 years old,” the court said.

    In their ruling, the justices noted

    SOURCE HERE :

    http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Ilana-Dayan-acquitted-of-libeling-Captain-R


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  17. moon

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    And which sources would be acceptable ? :mrgreen:
     
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    Good question. (wink)

    the point I've tried to illustrate to Gilos , was., that the recordings was not a fabrication/concoction /falsification - by Hamas - / Eletronic Intifada . etc. as he pathetically alleged.

    cheers.
     
  19. snakestretcher

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    ...and everything goes mysteriously quiet from the opposition!
     
  20. moon

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    Nope- I can still hear slithering.
     
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    Oh, I thought I heard scuttling. Same thing really; the sound of retreat.
     
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    Not just 'the entire forum' but mankind, across the globe.

    Who are the zionist wanting to build the temple for to show up?

    i would put my life on it and what is real but unfortunately the bigots cant.
    i judge

    Just like any alive can, will and do. But the difference is I have the 'name of god' and no other does, just as the old literature said I would.

    Any ambiguity there?

    You have little responsibility to be honest, because you feel like you have an inheritance to what is real.

    .
     
  23. Gilos

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    Anyone which you didnt provide...

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    I asked for a source, Moon evaded me for....10 posts? then you supplied one, seems like you are willing to cooperate only under heavy investigations, must be genetic?
     
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    Never mentioned bagels Moon, I said bake bread. Of course, this simple example can be brought up to speed to encompass any sort of help or occupation as the main thrust of the contention is that because of it's small size and nee for defense that is instantaneous soldiers who are reservists (which is just about everybody at some point) need to work and live near the borders. Since the Palestinians have not negotiated a peace treaty, the occupied territories require 'occupation' by the IDF and the subsequent support that allows them to live and work near where they occupy.
     
  25. Gilos

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    I do have a life Snake but I never evaded anyone in this forum.
     

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