If NSA Doesn't Get Your Blood Boiling...This Should

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  1. Libertarian ForOur Future

    Libertarian ForOur Future New Member Past Donor

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    [video=youtube;Tj0AxqOaJgU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Tj0AxqOaJgU[/video]

    Want to know how this cellular giants make so much money? Well, my dear friends, not only does your hard earn money go to them, but your tax dollars also goes to them. The government spends roughly $50,000 per wire tap order. Their success rate in prosecuting someone? 18%. So, they're shelling out more money, to find hardly anything, plus they're not even discussing those folks who they have prosecuted, to even determine the validity of the folks they are arresting.

    So...if your blood isn't boiling from the NSA surveillance, I'm sure this should begin to get under your skin. Begin to think how much money this is costing the tax payer. Remember, this might be started by the government, but it's the tax payers that fund their ridiculous projects.
     
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    So...no response to this? No one concerned that the big cellular companies are being given a lot of money from the government? No tax payer is concerned by this? Is it really a question, now, why these cell phone giants allow the government in?

    Who can blame them? For 50 grand a pop, that's easy money for doing nothing more than what you're already doing anyway. Might as well make some money off of it. Congrats tax payers, not only are all of us propping up the data warehouse that is housing all of the data, but all tax payers are now paying for the cellular services to freely give the information to the government.

    I'm surprised that more people aren't concerned over this. I guess a lot more folks, than I originally thought, don't mind providing money to this. Sad, indeed.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How much money per year goes to the rest of them?

    How much to google, and microsoft... how much are we paying to be kept?
     
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    I love how you say "to find hardly anything". 18% is much higher than I would imagine and it makes a much better case for our legal system and the governments inability to use these systems to affect innocent Americans lives.
     
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    I looked at the Wiretap Report myself. It seems it includes all types of communicate, including ones obtained from Microsoft, Google, and the like. However, most of the wiretapping comes in the form of voice. Thus, most of it is through AT&T, Verizon, Cricket, and the others. Although, this is an interesting report, in regards to Microsoft.

    Seems like Microsoft just handed the government the keys to the car, let them drive it. No need to worry about anything, they're willing to play ball.
     
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    So 82% of the other times were pointless endeavors as they weren't convicted. Yeah, such a high success rate that warrants such a need for these programs. Again, it's a lot of money, average of $50,000 every wiretap, to find hardly anything.

    The only thing this makes a case for is how these programs aren't needed.
     
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    What fools we are. We pay taxes so that the government can buy our privacy from the companies which charge us for access.

    What fools.

    "how do all these giant companies that dont sell anything make money?"

    "Um... ads."
     
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    Libertarian ForOur Future New Member Past Donor

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    Your very first sentence is exactly why I believe in what I believe in. If it's legal for the government to tap into private communication but it's illegal for others, there's a very serious problem.
     
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    it is the cost of doing buisness in the free market scheme.
     
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    The US Government is just throwing taxpayer dollars down the drain.
    You got that right!
     
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    This isn't a free market scheme. This is the cost of a government regulated economy.
     
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    This is free market because you have a willing buyer and a willing seller agreeing on the price for goods and services without any government interference on setting said price and quantity. The fact that you don't like it is immaterial.
     
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    What are you even talking about? The government is paying these services in order to tap into folks private communications. This has little to do with a free market versus government interfering into our lives.

    Again, I'm sure you would love to derail this thread. Stick to the raisins thread, if you wish to continue discussing a free market versus government regulated. This has to do with the government, using tax dollars, to pay for services to tap into our communication.
     

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