If this picture doesn't scare the s**t out of you, you have no soul.

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  1. Nonsensei436

    Nonsensei436 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The sort of logic that permits Trump supporters to justify Trumps actions also would permit them to justify Trump if he were to start executing them.

    How bad will this get? What happens when the first child dies in this detention center?

    I guess I’m asking what it would take for you to start caring?
     
  2. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1) The response was to those advocating children be punished for the actions of their parents. It's like blaming a kid for being born Jewish, black or, in this case, Hispanic.

    2) That would make sense. By working with Mexico, I think we could acheive a proper solution to the problems. However, since Trump's relationship with Mexico is on par with his relationship with Rosie O'Donnell, that's a major obstacle to solving the problems.
    https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/...ers-of-migrant-caravan-seek-asylum-in-mexico/
    what is Mexico’s responsibility here?

    Alfonso Lopez de la Osa Escribano is director of the Center for U.S. and Mexican Law at the University of Houston Law Center. He said Mexico’s policy, updated in 2016, grants asylum to anyone who seeks it.

    Lopez de la Osa Escribano said that because economic refugees and asylum-seekers travel the same paths as they seek to emigrate, telling the difference between the two kinds of migrants is difficult, and requires the government to assess them on a case-by-case basis.

    “To ask for asylum is a voluntary procedure,” Lopez de la Osa Escribano said. “If these persons [do] not start the procedure in Mexico… The Mexican government can do nothing, in that sense.”

    Lopez de la Osa Escribano said the ideal solution would be for the Mexican and U.S. governments to collaborate on an approach to asylum policy.
     
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  3. webrockk

    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the US is a nation of laws, not suggestions. are you sure you want a lawless society? because not enforcing laws is how you get a lawless society.

    I'm
    good with it, mostly because I'm a rather misanthropic SOB who lives way out in the sticks and has enough guns and ammo to protect what's mine, but I'm thinking the typical urban and suburban types might eventually grow weary of being raped, robbed and killed every day and twice on Sunday.
     
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    Yeah, the child at the other end of that gun looks very happy.....smh.
     
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    To: Interested Parties
    From: Jennifer Palmieri, President, and Navin Nayak, Executive Director, Center for American Progress Action Fund
    Re: Defending Dreamers is a Moral Imperative and a Defining Political Moment for Democrats

    Date: January 8, 2018

    ,,,,,,
    Latinos may not be the only constituency within the Democratic base that becomes dispirited and disengaged. If Democrats don’t try to do everything in their power to defend Dreamers, that will jeopardize Democrats’ electoral chances in 2018 and beyond. In short, the next few weeks will tell us a lot about the
    Democratic Party and its long-term electoral prospects.


    Guess that says it all. According to their radical handlers, caring Democrats care only about their future
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Her mom took her
     
  7. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wow! Are you saying this little girl is going to be the next Hitler?
     
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    Pardon, guess these are all future brain surgeons then? What kind of people will split up from their family on purpose to ILLEGALLY sneak in, then send their kids with someone else in the hopes that once the kids get here, we'll just pass them to whoever claims them. Then once they're claimed, oh look, they're reunited again. That strategy was torn to shreds as soon as we started documenting everyone and actually deporting people again instead of catching and releasing many of them like our genius previous admin who CAUSED THIS by giving illegals the option in the first place by making it so well known!!!! Obama would let many of the illegal parents just pick the kids up again. Trump is actually PROTECTING us and deporting the illegals. And this is a bad thing? According to Dems, its a VERY bad thing because they're being robbed of future generations of voters...and that's ALL THAT MATTERS. Why? Because they didn't give 2 shits when kids were being split up before Trump was elected.

    Stop exploiting our laws and come in legally. DOn't try to scam us by asking for asylum. BS. and everyone knows it. There are plenty of perfectly safe countries anyone can go to, but those countries aren't gravy trains like ours. The fact Mexico is just letting them all through proves how complicit they are in this whole scam.
     
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    Trump and Sessions own this new policy.

    they strongly defend it
     
  10. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    And they also provide one child traumatized for life.

    I'm sure this child would swap all the "meals and snacks" you care to throw at her for seeing her parents again.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Neither are white supremacists. Getting rid of MS-13 and white supremacists, and receiving this little girl would be a fabulous trade.

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    The distinction I would make is between the pre-white supremacist State and the post-white Supremacist State, which is more relevant to what is going on.
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we can't get rid of MS-13 because they are sparks of divinity.


    I was 100% sure you wouldn't answer.
     
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    Yes. At least the "progressives" bribed them with promises of welfare courtesy of the US taxpayer. Progs actively recruit in Central America and assist people in illegally entering the USA. Just across the USA-Mexico border progs run centers to teach illegals what to say in order to maximize their benefits in the USA.

    Surely you have heard of the recent "migrant caravan"? It was created by "progressive" organizations for the express purpose of generating conflict which the progs could exploit.

    Get up to speed on the issue. Feynman hated propaganda and the established way, and always looked at the issue himself. You should follow his example, drop the crap you have been fed and research for yourself.
     
  14. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Terrible. But at least the guy had his case heard in court. Compare that to children being separated with no trial.

    However, it should never happen.

    Your hypocrisy is dully noted, though....
     
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    I do as well. It is their policy to enforce the law and I'm good with that.
     
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    Many of them were seeking Asylum, and Trump didn't want to give their their legally permitted hearings.

    Why do you think Trump ordered Sessions to create new policy that states that domestic abuse and gang violence isn't eligible for asylum? Cause those are the two top reasons for seeking asylum. They passed that policy so they can throw these asylum seekers in prison without ending up on their asses for not following the law when it comes to asylum.
     
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    A partial picture, that's hypocritical from someone who just complained about people presenting partial arguments.

    But it looks like a - maybe - border patrol agent kindly trying to protect a little child from her clearly abusive parent (assuming that is her parent next to her). Making a child travel through entire nations without shoes doesn't sound very caring. Not to mention the parent exposing such a young child to all the trials and tribulations of such a dangerous trek.

    I'll bet just after that photo, the child leapt into the mans arms, grateful to be rid of that abusive "parent".
     
  18. doombug

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    I cannot believe how the left defends this:
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    "progressives" accuse parents of child abuse for letting their children play unattended in a safe playground, but support parents exposing their children to 1,000 mile long treks ramrodded by "coyotes" across dangerous countries.

    progs are so screwed up in their morals and sanity.


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    Had "the parent" come through a port of entry instead of crossing illegally there wouldn't have been ant reason to detain them.
     
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    Possibly. Too bad her parents chose to put her in that position as a pawn to get them into the country.
    Too bad you don't realize they have done that, and blame the people providing the care instead of the people who made it necessary.
     
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    Correct. Apply for asylum BEFORE you enter the country. Do it at an American embassy or at a border gate. Get yourself a place to stay on the Mexican side while the processing is being done. When approved, you have a ticket in, and you haven't violated our laws.
     
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    Or you could stop pretending that the most important issue in the country to you right now is the most important issue to everyone else, and just explain the context...
     
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    Because the alternative is catch and release, and that cannot continue.
     
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    They could seek asylum in Mexico, in fact international convention says they’re supposed to.
     
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