if you are on welfare should you have the right to vote?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by jesseventura, Apr 21, 2011.

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if you are on welfare or take more from the gov then taxed, can you vote?

  1. yes

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  2. No

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    29.9%
  1. frodly

    frodly Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand the connection.... It seems like asking, if you eat cheese should you be allowed to vote? Now there may be a legitimate debate to be had over whether people should receive welfare or not, but there is certainly not one over whether people who do receive welfare should be able to vote.
     
  2. dixiehunter

    dixiehunter Banned

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    If a person pays their Taxes every year....They should Vote.

    People that live off percentages of other peoples Taxes, and have not payed tax in over 10 years. Should not be allowed to vote.

    These are the same low lives sponging off Welfare, receiving Food Stamps and Medicaid.....FREE Goverment Money.
    More than 3/4 of them spend the money on illegal drugs and alchohol.

    They should be not allowed to vote. They belong in Prisons.​
     
  3. frodly

    frodly Well-Known Member

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    You haven't actually made an argument!! You have emotionally asserted some nonsense, and then blabbered on about your emotional dislike of poor people, but you have not actually made an argument for why welfare and voting should be connected. As I said, if you get to exclude people from voting based on arbitrary conditions, then I say anyone who drives a pick up truck cannot vote!!
     
  4. flounder

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    Geez,,you just described over half of the people in a poor neighborhood I used to work in...scary....[​IMG]

    It's very understandable how people can get upset about this, I really believe we have a right to see positive results for the welfare to continue. Not much different than a child getting older that refuses to work.
     
  5. SkullKrusher

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    I say we all take a vote right now on who should not be allowed to vote.
     
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    A quick vote among some of my friends above has concluded every dog except English Sheepdogs should be allowed to vote. (however, if English Sheepdogs could get a haircut so they can see who they are voting for, then they can vote also).
     
  7. _Lisa_

    _Lisa_ New Member

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    The 14th Amendment provides for felony disenfranchisement. It's Constitutional. The right to vote has nothing to do with our ability to pay taxes or how much we do pay and shouldn't.

    How can ANYONE call themselves a good American and sit here advocating disenfranchisement of the poor or ANYONE for that matter?
     
  8. dixiehunter

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    Stated like a true bleading heart liberal.....Another Socialist wannabe.

    What a load of hog drop.​
     
  9. Xela

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    Certainly. Almost everyone is a recipient of "welfare" in some form. Consider all the subsidies. Consider all the tax deductions for children. Would those who voted "no" claim that people who received subsidized student loans and those who claim their children as deductions have no right to vote? This is to just name a few. It would be hard to think of a person that receives some sort of government benefit that another person might not qualify for.
     
  10. frodly

    frodly Well-Known Member

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    And still no argument. Is it safe to assume you don't have one to make? I think it is.
     
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    randlepatrickmcmurphy Well-Known Member

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    No, none of those corporate fat cats should be allowed to vote.
     
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    so you believe that your fellow citizens should be disenfranchised?
     
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    Tax deductions are welfare? Who knew.....:roll:
     
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    Fact.....Liberals enjoy an argument. That's all their good for.
    But to get anything done right, or accomplish something for the benifit of the people. They ain't worth the crap.

    Besides, do you reside in Liverpool.?...Because in my opinion, their football team sucks.​
     
  15. Xela

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    It is a benefit you get that others don't because of certain circumstances. I think it would be fair to classify it as at least aid.
     
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    Keeping your own money is not "aid".
     
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    Jesse,

    You do realize virtually everyone over the age of 65 is on some type of government assistance (medicare, medicaid, social security, etc)

    By that logic no one over 65 could vote!

    Its time for right wingers to get a healthy dose of common sense.
     
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    Poverty has nothing to do with whether or not one should have citizenship and voting rights.

    In order to have rich people, there has to be a poverty class, also.
     
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    I agree that everyone should have a right to vote personally, but if you have been sitting on welfare for your whole life, you have done nothing to help the system, society, or the economy and there fore did not contribute. Even in a capitalist system, a small amount of taxes is an important part to keep public stuff running, and in this case...its a system of "Everybody contributes a little to the greater good, and in return everyone benefits"...even with welfare, it defies the purposes of any government system.

    And why should there be a poverty class to have rich people? When somebody gets richer, it doesn't necessarily mean somebody else becomes poorer. Infact it is rich people who stimulate the economy the most and help poor people by providing jobs for example.
     
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    But it is a closed system there is only so much money, gold, resources. If someone takes more that means there is less left for everyone else.
     
  22. Veni-Vidi-Feces

    Veni-Vidi-Feces New Member

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    That, and "the rich" do not employ poor people, the rich employ middle class people, the poor are not employed by the wealthy... unless you count the poor employed in 3rd world factories?
     
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    I'm not quite following you.

    This goes down to our opinons on what we consider middle class and poor. By poor, do you mean people on entitlements?...or people on really low salaries just making by?
     
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    Yeah, they let you in.
     
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    Side bar:


    When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross ~~ Sinclair Lewis ~ 1935


    Interesting quote in your profile.....considering your avatar is a picture of the American Flag transposed with an Israeli one.
     

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