If you really want to put America First

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  1. Noone

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    That only proves you know nothing about George Washington.
     
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    Start here:

    1. Transfer the entire education budget to vested parent/guardian controlled accounts and let them choose teachers and schools for their children - $17K -$27K/student/year in most school systems.
    2. Let teachers form their own small schools 15- 20 students for each teacher from homes offices etc.

    Any politician who supports that sort of reform will not need donor money to win an election.
     
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    Yeah Mr. Moderate Democrat, I was shocked when NO ONE Left of center rebuked Hillary for her "basket of Deplorables" and "Irredeemable" hate. But, that was just a continuation of Obama's unrebuked hate and dripping condescension of "Guns, Bitter Bible Clingers and Racists".

    So your cry essentially is why don't we get along with those "Deplorable, Irredeemable, Gun Totin, Bible Clingin', Racists"?

    We'll settle this in the Courtroom and at the Ballot Box, look at your pretense to 'reconciliation' in the OP. Show us where the Left takes any responsibility for the state of conflict after decades of slander coordinated and poured out with their willing accomplices in the lying fake news media.
     
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    Obviously you need a longer term. I would use six years so that we could rotate 1/3 of them each cycle and still have plenty of experience.
     
  5. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see you really took time to reflect on what the writer was saying. Do you want to know what’s wrong with America today? Look in the mirror.
     
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    Us Mongoes are but pawns in game of life...

     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, by orders of magnitude. Five years ago I was working for the worst company ever. Today I am retired. Five years ago, I couldn’t afford to take one vacation a year. Last year, we took, two, and I’ve had two so far this year, and my husband has had three. We leave for another vacation tomorrow.

    Life is amazing. Thanks for asking!!
     
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    I don't know. It depends on the quality of people you want in government. The current quality is overpaid. That is obvious. But cutting their incomes won't attract better candidates.
     
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    Congress, as far as I know, is the only entity in this country that gets to choose their own salary and benefits package. They also can exempt themselves from laws they make for us to follow.

    Sweet gig, truly. They don’t even have to ever show results of their “work.”

    It won’t get better until we demand it.Will that happen? Unlikely. This country will go down in flames with partisans on both sides screaming how it’s the other team’s fault.
     
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    Bet you felt foolish posting this once you got to post 32.
     
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    No, if all you know of Washington is "History Channel" ... never mind. :roll:
     
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    Washington didn't want to be president. He was called to duty and complied.

    This isn't a secret.
     
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    What I know of President Washington is he was very purposeful. He planned and controlled his life; jealously.
     
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    I have no idea what that means. Do 10 minutes of research and you will know that Washington had no desire to be president. Did you pass American history? This is basic stuff.
     
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    :rolleyes: It was a link that served its purpose. The fact that you refuse to admit you were wrong and instead just decide to denigrate shows just how dishonest you are.
     
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    I've seen the video and read the article, thanks. What I'm trying to say is President Washington went into the Presidency embracing it. He was very aware that being first wold set presidents and customs, done right, would be followed by he successors for generations. He did such a good job of "creating" what it meant to be President that the Presidency of These United States was admired and emulated for ... ever ... right up until Donald Judas tRump took a giant **** on it, and in 4 short years destroyed that admiration world wide. President Washington was a great man, a humble man, and he always knew exactly what he was doing.
     
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    This is called backtracking and deflection. Its good that you finally acknowledge that we were right, at least in the first sentence, and it wasn't an outright admission of being wrong. But it took 3 people to point out to you how you were wrong, even after you had a link provided. And you tried to denigrate me in the process. And then after you were shown to be wrong you try to claim what you "really meant". Sorry, I don't buy it.
     
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    Makes sense to me. If it gets really bad I'll just expatriate.
     
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    **** yes, being RIGHT is all that matters to you. I've studied President Washington quite a bit, and I know I'm going against the grain, but I think he knew what he wanted all along. When he went to the Continental Congress in his uniform he wanted to command the Continental Army ... and he did. He was humble and he was brilliant. Whatever you believe he is the greatest of Presidents and set the mold for all to follow, and all but one did.
     
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    If you know so much about him then why did you try and deny that he didn't even want to be President?

    In any case, it is still wrong to say that he believed in term limits just because he refused a 3rd term. He refused a 3rd term because all he actually wanted was to go back to his farm and lead a simple farm life. Indeed his farewell address only strengthens this. If you really wanted to point out a Founder that believed in term limits you could have used Jefferson who wrote Madison about how he disliked the fact that the Constitution did not include a "rotation of office" (in our terms...term limits). There was no shortage of people you could have used as an example as it was a contentious issue back then. But you chose to set your flag on Washington choosing to not run for a 3rd term. A wrong place to put it.

    And I wouldn't be hollering about me "being RIGHT is all that matters to you" when you at first refused to admit the truth and tried to act as if you were right, and others were wrong. Hell, you STILL can't fully admit you were wrong. As this post of yours proves.
     
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    "I" never said anything about term limits with respect to President Washington.

    "I" feel from the reading that I've done the President Washington was NOT a capricious man. He orchestrated his life purposefully. So it really doesn't matter if you believe he was a reluctant President or took on the job fully committed to doing it, and not only that but realized before he was even inaugurated that his actions would have lasting meaning and consequences. That, to me, is what matters; he set the mold for the Presidency. Right down to what we call our President. I may find Donald Judas tRump thoroughly repulsive and unworthy, but when he was IN office had I met him I would have addressed him as Mr. President. Almost every detail of being President was set by President Washington. Until Benedict Donald blew it all to hell.
     
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