Ilhan Omar Continues Her Anti-Semitism

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The evidence is that nationalists put their country first and that has nothing to do with color. Apologies though, I forget sometimes definitions of words is a difficult concept for left wingers
     
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    Nice try. Nationalism has nothing to do with racism. This country has so many different races and ethnicities, that if you are truly nationalist, then it is impossible to be racist. Only idiots on the left would find a link between the two. Neo nazis and KKK are just racist, not nationalist. Even if they call themselves nationalists, they are wrong. They are just too dumb to know it. Don't be as dumb as KKK and neo nazis. I'm sure you are better than that.
     
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    Calm down. Take a deep breath.
     
  4. Xyce

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    Trump did not want the women's death to overshadow the original purpose of the protest, which was peaceful and legitimate; he did not want to give currency to the narrative that everyone who was against the removal of the Confederate statues was violent and racist. Originally, there were people who were peacefully assembled in protest to the removal of the equestrian statue of Robert E. Lee; Trump was referring to that group of people. Those people were fine people; they were exercising their constitutional First Amendment right to speech and assembly in a peaceful manner.

    Going back to the topic of this thread, Ilhan Omar is an anti-Semite because she called Stephen Miller, a Jew, a white nationalist, which are people who historically hate Jews to the point of lynching them. She made this explosive charge without any evidence. She is an anti-Semite.
     
  5. EyesWideOpen

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    I am calm, shooting leftist ducks in a barrel has gotten really old. If anything, I'm bored.
     
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    You are either a bit dense, or you are indeed trying to be obtuse.

    The term nationalist, as a stand alone, has a much different meaning than a Black Nationalist, or a white nationalist. If you are trying to push the narrative that a black nationalist is just a nationalist who happens to be black, you'll only be insulting our intelligence.
     
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    Clearly you have "nationalism" and "supremacy" confused. Stop replying to me already, you're getting annoying
     
  8. EyesWideOpen

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    Those fools know all of that, they just making those claims to push your buttons. It's similar to the people referring to Obama as "the Kenyan" when they knew he was born in Hawaii.

    Ilhan Omar is an anti-Semite, and she just says hateful things about Jews to try and hurt them.
     
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  9. Xyce

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    Nationalism, in and of itself, has nothing whatsoever to do with race or racism.

    As defined by Merriam-Webster, the word "nationalism" has two senses that make up its definition:

    1: loyalty and devotion to a nation
    especially : a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups
    2: a nationalist movement or government

    As you can see, nationalism has nothing to do with race or racism.

    The phrases "white nationalism" and "nationalism" are two completely separate entries; to argue otherwise is fallacious.
     
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    A white nationalist infers the person belongs to a group or movement which seeks to create a nation with only white people in control,. Whereas a white supremacist is an individual who see whites as racially superior to all other races.

    You can be a nationalist and the race of your fellow countrymen is completely irrelevant. The point is, there is a distinct difference between a nationalist, and a white nationalist, and you know it. So why are you even arguing with me on this point.
     
  11. EyesWideOpen

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    Exactly. But facts, logic, reason, and common sense get in the way when Trump-haters are trying to pretend that to say you are a nationalist, must equate to racism. The same way as some democrats and leftists have been trying to equate a person claiming to be a patriot, or simply by displaying the American flag, equates to racism. We are dealing with blind, partisan, demagogues.
     
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    A lot said here.

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    What is a "tye US Extremist?"

    There were 49 people killed in the Pulse night club alone.
     
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    I'm sure you can work out a missing 'h'. No need to be petty. In that period there were 225 deaths. Now it is true that Islamic terrorist attacks tend to create more casualties (which has been research extensively by Defence Economists). However, we are still referring to approximately 3/4s of terrorist acts being committed by the far right. To ignore that would ensure irrational security policy.
     
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    Try taking me on. I guarantee you won't be bored. Regrettably, I am not a purebred liberal. PS. Nice avatar.
     
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    Where are you getting your stats from, the Southern Poverty Law Center? What did the source you cite use to classify an incident as a terrorist attack, or classify someone as "far right," for that matter? From my observations of the news media, far right only refers to white supremacists.

    As an aside, I can't understand how a white bigot is "far right," but a brown skinned bigot is not far right. Bigots are bigots, they are repugnant no matter the color of their skin. The most numerous, and sometimes most violent bigots over the past couple years, have been the ones who cite their political ideology as their driving force.
     
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    That is what I thought, but wanted to be sure. When people toss around the term "extremist" I really start to see the topic as political in nature, because "extremist" is biased and completely arbitrary in nature, it's not a legal term, it use has political implications.

    Let's take the violence which took place in Charlottesville over the statue protests, for example. I heard some members of the news media and some politicians refer to the neo-nazi groups as extremist right-wing, but they didn't refer to antifa as extremists, even though both groups are. Why? Because the leftist news media and politicians saw antifa as just doing what they themselves approve of, so why would they deign to call them "extremists?"
     
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    Antifa is the result of an understanding of the Popperian 'paradox of tolerance'. Of course this is irrelevant, as the definitions provided have nothing to do with 'leftist news media'
     
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    antifa are just a bunch of extremist nutbags, they are just as intolerant as the Neo-Nazis are. I despise the Neo-Nazis just as much as anyone else does, but I don't support violence as a way to combat them. You want to combat the Neo-Nazis? Laugh at them and ignore them. If everyone would have just ignored their little circle jerk marching around the statues, they'd have been viewed as a joke. Even Neo-Nazis don't want to waste their time driving hundreds of miles to protest if no one notices them. Instead, the little antifa fascists elevated the Neo-Nazis and gave them much desired international publicity.

    Antifa are just leftist thugs
     
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    As I said, the paradox of tolerance is well known. Anti-fascists have a long history of opposing fascism. That history is often forgotten by both liberal and conservative, as they peddle their own agendas.
     
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    ...as antifa behave exactly like fascists themselves.
     
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    Nope. They behave as we would expect from folk understanding Popperian analysis.
     
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    Unlikely, Minnesota is the most politically stupid state in America, they never regret anything. They did elect Franken, Ventura, and that abuser Ellison, so electing idiots is nothing new, yet they do it again and again...
     
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    The problem is that ANY CRITICISM WHAT SO EVER of Israel, is antisemitism to you guys.

    "OMG, Isreal just blew up an arab hospital filled with 1000 babies! How could they do such a thing?!?!?!"


    "YOU ANTI SEMATIST!!!"
     
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    That's impossible. European Jews are not Semites. Semitic languages are of Afro Asiatic origin and European Jews are not of Afro Asiatic roots. They are "converted" by way of Traditions and Customs, not ethnic origin. So, continuing to write false presupposition as though it is Historical Truth, only does a disservice to those who have not studied World History and are now living under the Social Engineering of the 19th century and its evil perpetuation throughout the world.

    Those Europeans who now call themselves "Jews" and who claim they are now returning to the "Holy Land" in "Israel," do in fact have Turkic origins as a strict matter of genetic science. They are not organic Hebrews and they have no original genetic roots in Ancient Kemet (what you call Egypt today), nor were they coalesced together out of an epic Exodus from under the cruelty of an Kemetain Pharaoh in Ancient Kemet.

    I would really appreciate it, if you would stop speaking about these Eastern European Impostors as though they are somehow connected genetically to my Ancestral lineage. They are not, nor have they ever been rooted in my Ancestry. I know who my Ancestors are and who they are not. My Ancestors are not of Turkish origin. Not ethically, not genetically, not anthropologically and not geographically. European Jews were once Turkish. The invented themselves along with a new religion and then set themselves apart as being "God's Chosen People."

    Stop the wholesale abduction of my Ancestor's Heritage, please. Just stop it. It is @$%@$% insulting to the hilt.
     
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