I'm a progressive I'm also pro life, abortion rights are doomed, give up the fight.

Silly person as it by some magical means you could get such a law pass and some DA was willing to bring charges the fact that it only take one repeat one sane person on the jury to exercise jury nullification mean that your dream of turning all of our women into force babies machines under punishment of law would be end stop.

Given that the majority of the population is pro choice that nightmare will not get that far but if it does it will be stop there.

 

Good post.

Not only would a ban on abortion be impossible to enforce but this statement is hilarious:

"" nor shall any person or persons, who are citizens or permanent residents of the united states travel abroad to receive an abortion or medically induced miscarriage or face a penalty of no less then one year in prison and no more then twenty years, up to the digression of the state.""

So they want to put a travel ban on pregnant women.

Women ( women, NOT "person" ) would have to have an "inspection" at the airport. An unconstitutional procedure.

Women would have to be monitored in their travels ( unconstitutional).

Women 's right to privacy privacy would be eliminated.( unconstitutional)


Women who had miscarriages would have to undergo a PUBLIC examination to see if it was a real miscarriage...which is STUPID since an abortion and natural miscarriage are almost impossible to tell apart.


YUP, they're stupidity has a long uphill climb to destruction of women's right to their own bodies..

 

Yes all this turning of women into baby making slaves would be unconstitutional for many reasons however are they not talking about placing this silliness into the constitution?

What a dream/nightmare the far right can come up with and of course once the children are born they would not care to offer any aid or support to those kids out of their tax dollars.

 

I'm a pro life progressive not conservative, but when I start my political career hopefully in the next 2 years. I will introduce that amendment to the GOP controlled state legislatures to go to convention. Because this amendment will show America and the world that we do value human life.

I know this would pass in the south east. and empty middle america. I would love to be able to have my name in the history books as the guy who ended the 50+ year slaughter of babies in america.

 

Sure you value human life an once you force women to have babies with all manner of lifetime and expense medical problems for example you will cheerful paid not only for their cares but for whatever manner of support the women and their families will need.

Love how you feel that women and their families can not be trusted to made those hard decisions but need male government officers to oversee the matter.

I have a female friend who had a greatly medical handicap son from having the umbilical cord wrap around his neck in the womb and who she spend forty years taking care of the gentleman until his recent death.

But women such as her can not be trusted to made those decisions but need your aid in doing so.

I frankly once more can not see how your attitudes are all that dissimilar to any other man who think he have the right to force a woman to have a child be that a husband or just a passing rapist.

Oh well this attempt even if somehow successful toward poor women are not going to work on the middle class an above for all the reasons always given in this thread.

 

I am different because I am anti war, anti gun, anti death penalty, pro UHC pro free college, pro jobs guarentee, pro free daycare/prek free breakfast lunch and dinner for kids in poor neighboorhoods in schools. Plus free birth control and contraceptives minus the after pill.

I care about the lives of babies and children. Also I believe the husband should at least have veto power over an abortion if the sex was consensual.

Would you as a law abiding citizen obey the amendment if it became law? Or would you start trafficking women to Canada and back trying to stop them from being caught.

 

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SuRRRRe you are....

And there is NOTHING "progressive" about trying to take away women's right to their own bodies...it's regressing to the caveman .

That , too , is hilarious...the world KNOWS how the US feels about human life...so many bad examples like caged and raped children on our border...the US treatment of minorities...and other countries...the world KNOWS the truth....

WHAT! You don't think anyone lives in the middle of America!! ...and you want to be a politician??!!

So it really isn't about saving lives, just an ego trip.


Now, here's the really hilarious part.

Banning abortion does NOT end abortion.

Oh , you might go down in history books but not for the reasons you think...

 

Hell no

 

IF you really care d about the lives of children you wouldn't want them born to those who don't want them or can't afford them....


As a decent , freedom loving American I would do everything possible to get women safe, affordable abortions....and so would many, many other people....abortions would continue.

 

Hell no I would not allow you and people like you to made involuntary baby making slaves out of women with very special note of those women I care about.

An when blacks was legal slaves there was brave men and women who ran the underground railroad and got those slaves to either the north or clear out of the country.

So to sum up if by some strange evil magic you got your wish you and people like you would ran squarely into men and women who will take whatever steps are needed to protect women an their rights to control their own bodies.

 

Its not about taking away a right its about protecting life, just like anti slavery people of the time it was about human life not taking away the right.

Oh I know this admin and GOP sucks, but once abortion is gone, it will be easier to implement the progressive social changes.

I mean barely anyone lives their if I have to drive for miles before I see someone then its freaking empty.

What would be the reason?

 

You people would until you an some state AGs start throwing 20 year charged at you guys then you would quitely go away, because not a sole would be willing to lose 1/5th to 1/4th of their life just to help someone, who didn't understand sex equals pregnancy, get an abortion

 

Take note the man think that abortions was not occurring in very large numbers before the SC rule that abortions was a woman right fifty years ago!!!!

Lot more women was themselves dying before the SC ruling but abortions was common no matter the risks.

 

Slavery if the definition of taking away people's right to their own bodies....EXACTLY what banning abortion would do.

What! HOW?

Gonna raie taxes to pay for all those born poor lives??? That should be popular...

So those LIVES that live there don't really count to you???

You have to see every person or they don't EXIST to YOU!!!! WTF!

Look up "Edsel", "Prohibition", "Custer's Last Stand", etc.....there are so many examples of failure and cruelty.

 

What a mess that was...

It's does make it obvious that you have NO knowledge of how long abortion has been around.

Did you think it started in 1974 !!!!? HILARIOUS!!

No, it's been around for thousands of years and won't go away because self righteous busy bodies pass a law against it.....

It would continue as it always has...….and just TRY enforcing it....that would be like herding cats

 

Many Anti-Choicers don't think abortion existed until 1974.

And if they did know what women went through before that with pregnancy, childbirth, and abortion , they'd hardly care..

 

LOL so you think that if somehow you get a ban on abortions into law that with the majority of citizens supporting a woman right to an abortion that one case after another would not result in jury nullification

 

Not when those nullifiers start mysteriously getting charged with internet piracy (something we have all done) then they would start thinking twice.

 

Abortions have been taking place from before the time of Jesus.

We in the US already have had a period of abortion being illegal in America. Roe v Wade didn't arise without a reason!

Do you know what happened during that period???

If you're going to argue this topic, you should at least learn the basics!

 

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OK, abortion is banned.

How much taxes are going to the investigation, trial, etc. to prosecute.

HOW are they going to FIND a woman suspected of having an abortion?

And, please don't say"through medical records" as one Anti-Choicer claimed, completely overlooking the FACT that if abortion was illegal there wouldn't BE medical records.

Will her loving parents, husband, lover, sister, friend, children turn her in ?


HOW are they going to investigate?

Investigate what?

Will all pregnant women who go to their doctors HAVE TO BE REPORTED for BEING PREGNANT?
Registered like cattle?


Will women who suffer miscarriages be publicly humiliated by a public examination to see if she had an abortion? Even though there is no difference between an abortion and a miscarriage?

Will decent people stand by while authorities in brown shirts drag off their mothers, daughters, wives, sisters, friends who are suspected of abortions ?

IF there's convictions will decent people want mothers, sisters, daughters , wives thrown in jail for life or executed by those "life loving" Anti-Choicers???


See, there are more problems than you ever thought of in your quest to deny humans the right to their own bodies...slavery.

 

LOL where in the world are you posting from as no American,at least in my opinion, would take that manner of a threat at all seriously.

 

Yes they will be registered. Businesses would face fines if they didn't report pregnant employees, teachers would face penalties if they didn't report pregnant student, and doctors would face penalties if they didn't report pregnant patients. As well as police having to report pregnant suspects. After the report, the phone number would be linked, and the GPS tracked on the phone. If they go to any place that is an abortion place and return back with out still be pregnant or given birth they will be prosecuted along with who ever did it. Actually the amendment only prosecutes doctors not the mothers in the US and only outside of the US are the women prosecuted unless it was done by an unlicensed"medical" person.

edit- it goes after doctors to make sure the people who know how to professionally remove the life from the womb won't be of service.

 

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Thank you for proving that Anti-Choicers think women are nothing more than cattle, to be owned, controlled , punished if they don't meet your criteria, lose the right to their own bodies ( a right YOU WOULDN'T give up) and simply become incubating slaves....now let's hear how you're NOT a misogynist

Ahh, here we go with the Anti-Choicers trying to make it look like they care about women, "Oh, we don't want them jailed, we love life and women, we just want them CONTROLLED and punished for having sex".

HOWEVER, IF a person hires a hitman to murder another person and that hitman is successful they are BOTH tried for murder.

If a woman hires a hitman (doctor) to "murder" her fetus , they should BOTH be charged...