I'm beginning to think Rudy has Alzheimer's

The question, for now, is not "what's the problem with that?" The question is "why hide it?"

I can think of several reasons. None of them good. Most imply some form of "quid pro quo" Can you think of a good one?

Fact is that we don't know for sure what's wrong with that, yet. But everything seems to indicate that some like Manafort, ... and most of the Trump family... do know what's wrong. And, whatever it is, that they are desperate to keep Mueller from knowing. Too late, though...

It's all part of the Trump Circus. Something that those who like to bet on how much time Trump will be spending in prison are greatly enjoying.

 

I never would have thought I'd see the day when "americans" casually dismiss the fact that the President while running for the office, repeatedly lied about his involvement with an historic adversary of the nation, while he was trying to make a deal with them. Apparently even after he decided to run, he hedged his bets by continuing to court Russian interest.

He was warned about Russian attempts to penetrate the campaign. Apparently he didn't think he was at all obliged to inform the American Counter Intelligence of his numerous ongoing contacts with Russia. All the while lying about it to the American People.

Seems trumpettes think that, putting his self interest above national security, is the kind of sleazy behavior that is sure to make America Great Again. Incredible.

 

How was it "hidden"?

I'm sure your imagination can come up with all kinds of interesting scenarios.

I wonder what those people in Uruguay have on him, eh comrade?

 

What was done to China when they hacked their way so far into Obama's and McCain's campaign that the Secret Service had to issue them new devices?

I like the "ongoing numerous contacts with Russia" line though. That sounds ominous.

 

Like this.... for example

 

So Trump denied have ties to Russian oligarchs, Russians involved in hacking, etc etc.

Mueller himself has more ties to Russian oligarchs like Derispaska than Trump ever has.

Clinton took millions from Putin controlled banks, not to mention the millions from Saudi Arabia and a laundry list of other foreign countries. Donations that seem to have mysteriously dried up now. Strange that.

So yeah, you're imagining things.

Trumps involvement with Russia is not building a building in Russia, Miss Universe stuff, and as part of an incoming administration.

I'm starting to feel badly for you guys when this all comes out. I'm not sure how you're going to deal with it.

 

The issue that Trump and Rudy have is that they're trying to cover up conspiracies and scandals and they are not good at it. They're not good at the malfeasance to begin with and they're not good at trying to conceal it. They are generally speaking quite incompetent in all things.

It's simple really - they're both really dumb.

 

The problem for the left is that the only place they exist is in your imagination.

If they had ANYTHING on Trump, it would have already leaked.

 

Wrong. While Steele was not assigned to do the research by Fusion GPS when the Washington Free Beacon originally funded it the task of doing oppo research on Trump nonetheless began when it was funded by Repubs.

Conservative Website First Funded Anti-Trump Research by Firm That Later Produced Dossier

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/27/us/politics/trump-dossier-paul-singer.html

WASHINGTON — The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website funded by a major Republican donor, first hired the research firm that months later produced for Democrats the salacious dossier describing ties between Donald J. Trump and the Russian government, the website said on Friday.

The Free Beacon, funded in large part by the New York hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer, hired the firm, Fusion GPS, in 2015 to unearth damaging information about several Republican presidential candidates, including Mr. Trump. But The Free Beacon told the firm to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was clinching the Republican nomination.

Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee had begun paying Fusion GPS in April for research that eventually became the basis for the dossier.

 

You mean like the meeting between Flynn and the Russian Ambassador leak? How about the Trump helped his son write BS about that Trump Tower meeting aboard Air Force 1 leak?

 

Yes, the incoming administration meeting with the ambassador of Russia, having a conversation. That's so very very unusual and has never happened before.

A conversation which the FBI has a transcript of.

Please tell us what crimes Flynn was charged with as part of that conversation.

 

No.

Check the timeline from your lefty source.

No contacts with foreign sources were made during that time, and everything the FISA warrants were issued on was the result of Steele's "work".

GPS and Perkins-Coie were just there as a money-laundering way for the DNC and Clinton to disavow knowledge of the dossier.

Which, of course, the DNC and the Clintons lied about having any involvement in, until they were caught red-handed.

 

Attempting to subvert the policy of the sitting government in conversations with the ambassador of a foreign adversary is not normal.

 

Your post in no way refutes what I wrote.

BTW, there was nothing improper about the Dems paying for oppo research on Trump.

 

And lying about it. Flynn was fired for lying about it to Pence.

You know that.

 

Uh, discussing what official US foreign policy will be under an incoming administration has been done since, oh, forever.

If Flynn did something illegal, what was he charged with.

You know, from the verbatim transcript of their conversation that the FBI has.

 

Yes, it does.

The Steele dossier, which is the basis of the "russia russia russia" collusion investigation didn't exist until well after the Clintons got it.

I mean if you want to say "well, one was called a dossier, and so was the other" then sure. I'll give you that.

 

Which is not the same as discussing ways to subvert the policy of the sitting government.

 

Are you talking about the $140 million the Russians put into the Clinton Foundation because of Uranium One?

 

I know Flynn has been charged with lying as a process crime. About what we don't know.

Of course, they can't produce the original 302's from the interview.

Did you forget it wasn't until like 6 months after the interview, when Strozk and the other agent said he wasn't lying, that McCabe decided he was lying?

How'd that work out for McCabe?

So he was charged with lying.

What else?

Nothing.

That means he didn't commit a crime when talking to the Russian ambassador. If he had, they would have charged him for it.

 

Wrong again. The FBI had ample information to get approval for the warrants without the dossier. The entire Nunes canard asserting otherwise has already been completely debunked.

 

They did?

Who told you that, and what was that "other information"?

Let me guess, it was Bishop Comey.

 

It just never stops.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

 

This is publicly known information outside of the right wing media bubble.

 

Yep! It's called "denial". What you requested.

No idea what the rest of your message has to do with it.

So you think it's not just those things? I agree. And that's what we're concerned about.