'I'm the one at a 'disadvantage': Trans athlete who won the women's 400m hurdles at the NCAA champio

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    RW seems to do a bunch of lies
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    No one gives 2 shits about your personal feelings either.
    Most with integrity go with professionals.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Another personal opinion.
     
  4. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At birth, the professionals determined gender and they did that using biology and the professionally settled science of chromosomes.
     
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    No they didn't. They stated a sex.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean male or female? That’s settled and scientifically proven. Hold on, my cat thinks he’s a dog and I have to appease him with a bone.

    When you say ‘gender’ what you’re doing is normalizing a mental abnormality. It’s what the left does.

    Wait...you do believe a guy thinking he’s a girl is abnormal, right?
     
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  7. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The people who truly believe they were abducted by aliens, the kind from outer space and not Mexico, do you believe them?
     
  8. dairyair

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    Again your unprofressional opinion doesn't mean much. Except to you.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Why do you always have a hard time staying on topic?
     
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    Why lie? They stated a sex.
    Ever look ay a BC? It asks for the sex.
     
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    That’s hardly a response. Settled science is just that, settled. You’re letting feelings blind your highly educated and intellectually elite dedication and loyalty to settled science. Settled.
     
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    I think it's a joke that female athletes win scholarships at all. It's men's sports that make all the money. Other than gymnastics and maybe women's tennis nothing else should even count.
     
  13. Steve N

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    You’re right. Let’s get back to settled science and the suicide rate of people you consider normal. You do consider them normal, don’t you? I mean, you’d be proud if at birth your doctor said you’re the proud mother of a boy who will want to be a girl in ten years. You would be beaming, correct?
     
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    It's a perfect response. All you've posted is your unprofressional opinion.
    I am letting professionals make the determination.
     
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    Now you resort to BS. How would anyone take you serious? The joker is a character in Batman.

    All you care about is putting words in my mouth.
     
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    I'm waiting for a liberal law that says doctors can no longer declare a new born baby a boy or a girl, or the ultrasound technician for the unborn baby, and that any such determination must be withheld until the child is able to make their own determination.
     
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    You're making a distinction without merit.
     
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    They are TRYING to normalize it. Even with the all the normalizing that has gone on, the suicide rate numbers for transgenders has not budged even a single percentage point. Acceptance does not help those with mental illness..... medical/psychiatric intervention would seem to be only humane option.
     
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    Someone sometime soon is going to have to address this ever growing issue! It may very well be the Supreme Court.

    This person's birth certificate reads female and they have competed female, but their testosterone levels demonstrate those of biological male.

    UPDATE: And I just read that the Court of Arbitration's ruling has been over-turned. Caster will compete on June 30th as a female.
     
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    There are facts, and there are opinions. Have male chromosomes and a penis to back it up is a settled scientific fact. What goes on in someone's head is anyone's guess, not factual. My son has a neurological disorder and every shrink we take him to has a different opinion on what he's suffering from, how severe it is, and what the best course of action should be. They all have different opinions which often clash. When he gets his asthma treated settled scientific facts are used to determine it's severity and treatment. Every doctor has treated him the same way.

    With that said, I have no doubt whatsoever that you can go shrink shopping and find one who says it's normal for a boy to claim he's a girl.

    Now let's get back to a question I asked earlier. if a person tells you s/he was abducted by aliens, would you believe it?
     
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    What sex is a hermaphrodite?
     
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    Do you believe such a policy should be based on extremely rare genetic errors or mutations? But if you insist base it on their normal testosterone level.
     
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    I have stated, at least 2X in this thread.
    I leave the policies to those who are trained and work in the field.

    Do you think the Olympic committee, NCAA committee, State HS athletics committee don't know all the BS surrounding the trans issues? Don't you think they've studied and learned from experience?
    I will let them determine who they will let race and the criteria they choose.

    There is a woman who has extra high testosterone levels who has won Olympic medals, who was forced to take drugs to get her testosterone below certain levels in order for HER to compete as her natural born woman status.
    The at woman is linked in this and a few other threads on this trans issue.

    I see you dodged the question though, what sex is a hermaphrodite?
    Can a doctor determine that a baby, just born, is a hermaphrodite?
     
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    Well YOU brought up an extremely rare genetic condition in some kind of defense of letting boys compete against girls not me and quite frankly has nothing to do with the issue here, if you want an education in the condition go do your own research.
     
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    Do you really need a professional to tell you the difference between and man and a woman? And I thought trumpers were slooooow.
     

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