Impeachment? Crime? Where?

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  1. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Do you know what is really going on?

    What is all of this stupid stuff distracting us from?
     
  2. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Based on the law it does not appear Trump has violated campaign finance law. I detailed why I thought that to be the case, Cohen's non-test of this through his guilty plea doesn't change this.
     
  3. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Your misreading of federal campaign finance regulations is NOT my problem.

    In essence you are accusing Cohen, his own attorneys, the SC prosecutors, David Pecker, Pecker's attorneys and the judge to all be wrong about campaign finance violations while ONLY YOU have the "right interpretation"?

    :roflol:
     
  4. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, that is precisely it.
     
  5. DentalFloss

    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    Actually, that's his greatest accomplishment. He's not a great POTUS. He's a horrible public speaker. Lots of downsides. But Hillary would have completely ****ed our country.
     
  6. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can't be serious with that comment. Look at your and Lee's repeated posts on how guilty Trump must be based on all of the convictions. Convictions, which based on the method, are questionable.
     
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    Its not bribery and bribery isn't a crime. Bribery occurred when Stormy demanded payment or she would sing.
     
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  8. Mike12

    Mike12 Well-Known Member

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    What is up with liberal mob? After two years looking into russia collusion, all that has come out is indictments for people’s past crimes, pre-dating trump campaign, some lying about stupid stuff they should’ve never lied about and hush money to a porn star who now has been ordered by a judge to pay trump for legal fees.

    Not only this, people who know this well know that the chances of trump being charged for violation of campaign finance laws is remote;even of it did occur, chances of actually being found guilty and less than remote, this is an almost unwinnable case, to prove trump didn’t do it to keep secret from affecting his personal life but to influence election.

    So all this time, all this money, for petty crimes and stuff of no signficance. What happened to flynn is an utter disgrace. This man was a hero, got in trouble for not remembering some meeting of no significance, the guy didn’t even try to conceal a crime. For this, his whole career in military, fighting terrorism and serving his country thrown out the door. This is an utter disgrace and shows the dark side of appointing a special counsel in a politically toxic environment... this should not have ever been started, it’s turned into a disgrace...
     
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  9. Bluesguy

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    You are free to settle personal matters with your own money. If Bloomberg decides to run and he tells his attorneys to just settle those outstanding pain in arse lawsuit that is not illegal. If he decides to us billion dollars of is own money and not take contributions he can spend it anyway he sees fit.
     
  10. Sanskrit

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    Arguendo, campaign finance violations of the type the Obama Administration paid huge penalties for are not impeachable offenses.

    And of course there is no evidence of any crimes of the Trump Campaign involving Russian collusion. No one, not even the Complex LW, ever believed that existed. It was just a catalyst for a fishing expedition that proves once again that the LW-Democrat Complex is a crime family that cares only for itself and its power, not for the country or its citizens.
     
  11. Lee Atwater

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    Finally, we agree on something.

    Unfortunately for Don, his illegal activity regarding the violation of campaign finance law is of a more serious nature.
     
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    Here is a link to her actually saying it...

     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good question
     
  14. PPark66

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    Yes. Think about it. So far it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that the Trump circle lies about all things big and small. Hopefully you can acknowledge you’ve been lied to repeatedly.

    They’re wasting our time and resources engaged in a conspiracy of lies. It is perfectly rational to pursue their motivation for lying.

    Are we dealing with mental illness or a criminal pathology or both?
     
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  15. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    You posted the wrong quote.
     
  16. kriman

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    Which has nothing to do with the investigation.
     
  17. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    First sentence, yup.
    Second sentence? Ya lost me there.
     
  18. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He is definitely guilty, im listing the evidence below

    White
    Straight
    Republican
    Christian

    Lock him up!!!!!!
     
  19. Mike12

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    I think this is sick..

    People don’t realize what prescedent this is setting, to go after political rivals before there is a shred of evidence of any crime, very dark times ahead.

    The justice system is about looking for persons who committed a crime. There is evidence of a crime and then it is investigated. Here, it’s pretty much ‘investigate Trump to see if we can find a crime’. Again, there wasn’t a damn shred of evidence of any crime when this started, just that Trump wanted to improve relations with russia. Can you imagine if we go through witch hunts like this everytime any elected president wants to improve relations with any foreign power we consider a rival? Russia, iran, NK, cuba? Imagine if we would’ve gone through this when obama wanted to improve relations with cuba?

    Just imagine what the future holds, maybe governemnt will just start going after all american citizens they think are anti-goverment? Investigate, intimidate using intrusive tactics trying to find crimes and even selectively prosecute for crimes that are rarely prosecuted? For sure many crimes would be uncovered in this manner but this would be a dictatorship, a brutal regime. This is where we are headed... maybe?

    And again, after all this.. no evidence of russia collusion and so the focus has changed to trump’s business past and past of paying women hush money to keep them quiet. One of them was exposed as a porn star who is such a fraud that a judge has ordered her to pay trump for legal fees for trump having to defend against bogus accusations. This is what this witch hunt has uncovered and this is the result? A dead end because prosecutors will have to do the impossible - prove beyond reasonable doubt that trump paid hush money, not to protect his family from embarrsment and personal turmoil, but solely to influence election.

    This is a total f disgrace and setting a very dark, scary prescedent of selective prosecution with no evidence of a crime from the outset, all politically motivated.
     
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  20. Sandy Shanks

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    Not as a result of a conspiracy to keep vital information from voters. That is a federal crime.
     
  21. Sandy Shanks

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    Lee and I have never said Trump was guilty of anything.

    Thank you for putting me with good company. Lee is good, very good.
     
  22. kriman

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    I am not going to argue about whether you said it directly, but the implication is very clear.
     
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    How? Easy. His Pecker betrays him.
     
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  24. Sandy Shanks

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    There is a special prosecutor who is investigating alleged crimes by Trump. The precedent for investigating alleged crimes goes back to the time of Jesus. Maybe even before His time.

    I am shocked that you didn't know that. 8)
     
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    So now you are a mind reader. You claim to know what I and Lee are implying.
     

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