In Physics, what is the next step after time dilation?

Just to let you know....I had intended in my previous post to continue it much longer and explain what you have stated as my thinking your confusion is actually existing within another aspect of this topic.

I am well aware of that but I was distracted by a very beautiful blonde and sparkling blue eyed lady for a while and lost track of what I was doing after our....interactions....so I never really finished doing what I had intended to do here.....which by the way if I had to make the same choice again....I would still have gone with the Strawberries and Champagne!!! LOL!!!!

So bear with me and I will get on with it because she is still here and if any long enough time passes where I am not paying her as much attention as she might like....well....forgive me but SHE is going to win the time over you!!
LOL!!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Wag...it would seem Sad-Sag has done a good job explaining in my absence.

He pointed out something very important as far as this topic....the closer you are to a Gravity Well from any object orbiting it Time Passage for you will pass at a greater rate than any person or object in orbit.

This is magnified by the Acceleration of Velocity of the Object as well as the size of the Gravity Well....thus Time Passage for a person standing on Earth is faster than Time Travel for a Person standing upon Mars.

As far as the Speed of Light which is 186,282 miles per second....and exists at a Universal Maximum Velocity....when Light or Photons generated from a Star than we can see just behind our Sun but not quite as the Light when using specific tech. to block out the Sunlight in order to see the starlight existing just at the edge of the sun.....that light is being warped when it encounter the Space-Time Curvature created by the massive Gravity Well of our Sun.

Thus it is possible to measure the same starlight being generated by the same star when it is not having it's light effected by the Gravity Well of our sun and we find that the light from the star had to travel a small amount of distance longer when it's light was peeking around the edge of our sun than when it traveled to Earth in a straight line as that starlight had to travel the additional distance incurred and created by our Sun's Gravity Well warping Space-Time.

AboveAlpha

 

Not so on the universal maximum speed of light. There's nothing universal about it. If we accept that our only source for the speed of light is the appearance, but not actual, speed of light in a vacuum as observed on the Earth frame, then, no, the speed of light isn't a universal constant at all. In fact its speed will vary depending on where the light is and what gravity situation is affecting it.

I'm aware that we can see stars behind the sun. But, having worked with curves before, and having also taken astronomy, I can say with fair confidence that gravity affects light, and the light of the distant star is being bent by the gravity of the Sun.

The photons that would have reached Earth in a straight line are blocked by the Sun and lost. What happens is that another photon, in an adjacent, infinitesimal small angle to the first, passes just close enough to the Sun to have it's path altered by gravity, and it heads straight towards Earth, but not so that it either gets captured by the Sun or heads off into space, missing Earth entirely.

A curve will always be slightly longer than a straight line between points would be. And, we are dealing with multiple points of gravity and a complex multi-force system of distortion of the light.

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Well, it is a maximum...even when moving through a medium, it is still moving faster than anything else could. The speed might change, but it is still the maximum. There is nothing else that will go faster through that medium.

 

Lots of things have been made to go faster han light, it is routinely done, but it's typically the phase velocity therefore information can't be transferred faster than light.

 

Try to understand that Curved Space-Time can either shorten or lengthen distance that Light will travel given celestial conditions.

AboveAlpha

 

It seems that the confusion that is in this thread is due to treating the fourth dimension (time) in a different manner to the other three dimensions. ie in space time, if given the assumption that speed of light is constant, the fact that in the observers time frame a photon appears to have traveled more than 186000 miles in one second when eg skimming a heavy object, is due to the "length" of one second being different between the observer and that being observed. It is closer to say that speed of light is not constant but "speed-time of light" is constant thus introducing the fourth dimension.

Aside, IMO speed of light is not constant over time but depends on time of emission .........

 

First of all it is a known provable FACT that our Universal Space-Time exists in greater than just 4 Dimensional States.

Just for Quantum Particle/Wave Forms such as Photons to exists as both Particle and Wave as well as obtain different specific Frequencies....which allows us to see Colors....in Electrons or Electricity or other EM Band Wave Forms such as Radio....be able to have various Frequencies....we need at AT MINIMUM....10 or 11 Dimensional Universal Space-Time Dimensionality for Particle/Wave Duality.

AboveAlpha