Inside Robert Mueller’s Army

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What are you on about in this post ?
     
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    A claim that something has been "debunked", so one doesn't have to deal with it, don't impress people very much.

    As far as Clinton only being just one of nine signatures needed to sell off our strategic uranium resource to the man (Putin) she professes to dislike and distrust so much, this does nothing to change all the money that flowed to her husband and family foundation from Russian sources after signing off on the deal as if by magic!

    Did you read the link from Yahoo News?
    I'll bet not and their view of the uranium deal with the Russians that benefited Hill and Bill so much and yours differs greatly. I'll stick with the left wing news agency that documents what they claim whereas, you don't.




    I said that's a view many take.

    There are many charges. None of have been proven at this point as far as I know. If he's guilty of something it is incumbent on Mueller to get that information out as soon as possible.
    Otherwise his investigation just becomes a tool to impair the presidency by constantly keeping it under a dark cloud when Mueller cannot possibly make a case that's been hyped to the base.

    Russia bought
    fifteen percent of our strategic uranium reserve and cannot use it? I hardly believe that. Please cite that exact information.

    There is no proof anywhere that the information leaked during the election (credible DNC sources say the leaks all came from angry Sanders supporters) is what gave the election to Trump. Sorry. There in none!
     
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    Another thread derailment attempt?
     
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    No. Pay Attention. Read the title of the thread and then know that Mueller is investigation the Podesta Brothers for their close ties with Russia.

    Podesta was her campaign manager.

    The Podesta Brothers were involved and failed to disclose working with the same folks Manafort was working with.

    Capiche?
     
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    Debunked means that the claims made are wrong.

    Having to rehash the "uranium deal" is beyond ridiculous. Their are 2 very simple points that debunk the theory that the Clintons benefited form the deal:
    1. Hillary was one of 9 people required to green light the deal - while the President had the ultimate authority. You would have to prove that everyone who signed off benefited from the deal to prove it nefarious in any way
    2. The "uranium" could not be exported outside of the US as part of this deal

    and if your so worried about Russian payments, then you support forcing Trump to release his finances right ?


    Again, all due respect, but you obviously don't understand the role of a special counsel. It is not the job of the special counsel to define guilt or innocence. His job is to investigate, and then determine from there if their is enough evidence to warrant a trial. If there is, then the special counsel can act as the prosecutor, or they can turn it over to the Justice Department to provide a prosecutor. Muellers job does not require him to release any information to the public, and actually to the contrary his job is to gather the evidence outside of public interference.

    It was part of the deal to sell it that they could not export it. Its just a fact

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-russian-uranium-deal/?utm_term=.9b23916a2665

     
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    So what? So did President Trump.
     
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    Trump donated to Clinton in the '16 election? Well at least he was trying to give her every chance to keep up.
     
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    No, Trump donated to Clinton in the 2008 election, and also previously. But I suspect you already knew that.

    Trump donated to Clinton. And was close personal friends with her, too. For decades. So obviously that tells us that he has bad judgment. I assume that's what has you all worked up over half of Mueller's team not being Trump devotees?
     
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    1. I knew Trump donated previously. How close of friends they were, I don't know. I do know that in most big cities, major industry has to be in bed with politicians to get the permits, contracts, or licenses though.

    2. I don't care who these people voted for, I'm simply speaking of appearances. There are many obvious conflicts of interest. Does that mean that these people cannot do their jobs without bias? Absolutely not. It does mean that some of their conclusions or motives are open to question.

    Look at Sessions. He refused himself because of conflict of interest. Does that mean he isn't able to conduct an investigation with total impartiality? No, but a conclusion in Trumps favor would automatically be questioned.
     
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    So any of the investigators who supported Trump in 2016 and declare Trump free of any wrongdoing are obviously biased and can't do their jobs impartially, correct? If the conclusion is tipped in Trump's favor, I guess we need to see how many Trump supporters were on Mueller's team, and proclaim the conclusion to be invalid.
     
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    There are members of Mueller's team that donated to Trump? You will have to cite that.
     
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    Rep DeSantis Proposes Bill to Defund Mueller's Star Chamber After 180 Days and Limit Its Scope to Only Actions Taken During Trump's Presidential Bid

    Interesting.

    Before you say "But that could never pass!," well, you're probably right, but it could possibly pass if it were attached to a must-pass spending bill. Which is what DeSantis proposes.
     
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    Not at all. I don't need to prove a thing
    about those other people and whether or not they benefited from the deal to say with certainly the Clintons did.

    I asked you to clarify this point.
    You did not.
    Yahoo News has written about the uranium deal and what the Clintons got out of it. Yahoo is no right wing source. Quite the contrary.
    I've invited you several times now to comment on the piece and you haven't even mentioned it so your silence is talking for you
    and it tells me you don't want to know, or deal with what the article says.

    You are telling me nothing new.

    So why in the world would any nation spend millions, or billions, to gain control of a product they cannot bring back to their own nation?

    Just on it's face this seems ridiculous.
     
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    The extremist alt right FEAR that their beloved BLOTUS is going to be exposed as a criminal is palpable.
     
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    Uhhh... no it isn't.
     
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    Tell it to Trumpo because he is looking like a deer in the headlights of a Mac truck. :)
     
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    Sure. You are chocking him out, he's about to tap!
     
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    More like Mueller's on Trump's tail at 150 mph and Trump is about to brake check him. :banana:
     
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    Your BLOTUS is drunk driving at 150 mph through a 25 mph school zone and is about to become one of those epic crashes that are caught on the dashcam of the police vehicle.
     
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    He's using left wingers for speed bumps. Winning! :banana:
     
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    That was the vile racist white supremacist nazi in Charlottesville that your beloved BLOTUS embraced.
     
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    Mueller is now teaming up with Eric S., AG NY state, nullifying the Fed pardon......the army is advancing.
     
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    Sounds like Muellers throwing in the towel. He's come up empty on collusion, election interference, and obstruction ... Rather than come away with nothing he's trying to assist the NY AG make a case. Good luck with that.
     
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    Didn't read your own source that says "Mueller’s top priority is likely a counterespionage operation". Likely because they aren't finding any coordination with the Trump Campaign to prosecute.
     
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