Interesting stat about the 3.5 trillion dollar budget bill...

Oh, that's right! Paint me embarrassed. Our hero told us that the Federal Reserve prints the money and gives it to us with no strings.? The Thing, you know, the Thing bless them.

 

Everyone that doesn’t receive a W-2.

 

Well 1) my post was made before they changed the plan yet again and
2) the new plan is even more retarded and unworkable than the old plan because the bank isn't going to know what my W2 income is or what is magically $10K over that amount.

 

No, not at any level.

Yet you give one opinion piece.
This is from your piece:
"The views expressed in this publication are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the United Nations, including UNDP, or the UN Member States."

Ok, what's your point?

Yes, but.......
From your reference:
"In Sweden, there are very few fee-charging schools, though 10% are “free”, state funded but run independently. These schools are allowed to make a profit if they prove they are providing a good level of education."
" High taxation means schools are well-funded."

This made me laugh out loud. You claim I'm anti-capitalist and yet you give Sweden as your example(s) which uses a socialist system of education. Funny stuff.

No, I'm correct because besides paying for your private school (and the difference is closer than your study showed) you are still going to be paying the taxes that fund the public school.

Yeah, and if I had two wheels I'd be a bicycle. Stick to reality.

 

All nonsense responses without a single backup. Just screaming "you're wrong!" doesn't make you right.

The American school system costs too much for sub-par results, creates massive disparities in qualities of education based district property values, and fails to prepare our students to enter the work environment prepared as other nations.

School choice is a benefit. Our current system does not allow it.

 

So the top 1% who also receive W-2's are excluded?

 

In another thread where I ranted about why are we going to give two years of community college, seems to have been pulled from the bill now. to a student body that cannot read and write and do simple math? Why not spend the money on K-12 and vouchers with choice would be a good first move.

 

First, I didn't scream. I typed in a steady tone.
A single backup? Like you're one opinion piece? As far as the public school system and it's cost, you are simply wrong with your assertion, which I showed by saying that if you send your child to a private school, you not only pay for that but you also pay for the public school. A cost per student ratio may be correct but the out of pocket is more expensive. Another point is that your cost per student has a lot, a lot, of factors that play into that figure that make it a false equivalency.
School choice is a benefit? A benefit from what? What does that even mean?

 

If you lived in a poor school district that did a bad job of educating kids, you either have to pay MORE for private school... or move. How is THAT beneficial?

 

And how would what you suggest help that situation, giving that it's a POOR (meaning wealth) district.

 

Allow the students to attend any school that best serves their needs and stop funding schools through wealth disparity mechanisms that put poor students at severe disadvantages.

 

So with your system a poor kid in Compton should be allowed to go to school in Beverly Hills through a voucher system somehow. Is that it?

 

Or, there would be 4 schools operated by 4 different entities that offers education in Compton or South Central. Kids that grow up in Compton now can still go to Harvard. Right?

The problem with our education system is that is based on property taxes districted into small geographic areas. If all the kids at Compton decided to obtain their education elsewhere, the Compton schools would close and that's precisely the point.

If the kid is smart enough to test into the Beverly Hills school, and they welcome them there, why shouldn't he be able to get that education?

Because his parents are poor?

 

So there should be 4 "for profit" schools in Compton or South Central. And that would come about how? You think there are parties out there that are saying to themselves "there's a ton of money out there to be made if we open a school in Compton". Like that?

As it is everywhere, even in Sweden, the example you cited. A LOT more taxes.

What point is that exactly?

I highlighted the problem for you. But you knew that so I don't understand why you would make that statement.

Yes!!! Not hard to understand.

 

When the students carry a government paid voucher over their heads.... yup.

Not from funding education. Most other developed western schools pay $10k per student. We pay $14k

Schools that under perform or mis-managed go out of business.

Yes, some schools may have admissions requirements, others will take anybody for the voucher. Just like some apartments accept Section 8.

Ahh, I see. You want to dis-advantagr whole swaths of students from quality education because they are poor.

 

And yet we STILL don't pay enough.
https://educationdata.org/public-education-spending-statistics
"In the United States, education spending falls short of benchmarks set by international organizations such as UNESCO, of which the U.S. is a member. The nation puts 11.6% of public funding toward education, well below the international standard 15.00%."
Aren't numbers fun?!!

Nope. That's a pipe dream.

Public schools don't go out of business and the "private schools" you think will magically appear, will not.

If what you want would, again, magically happen those requirements would change to keep "undesirables" out.

Me? I don't live in Beverly Hills. Did you not grasp the reality of the situation?
Our last Secretary of Education was a big believer in school vouchers. The idea had little to no support.

 

Double down on a failing system. Status quo.

Are you an educator?

 

Oh, I see your not a teacher, but per you:

Father= teacher-NY
Mother=teacher=NY
Brother=teacher=NJ
Best friend=teacher-SD

From a family of teachers. I can see how you would be defensive.

 

I'm not defensive. I simply pointed out the obvious flaws in your alternative. I'll also point out how you failed to address the falsehood of your statements about the money the US spends per student being too much compared to other countries but in reality the US is behind in the amount they spend per student when it is put in perspective of other economic factors.

 

"Put into perspective considering other economic factors"?

Sounds like playing numbers games to me.

Let's try this. Do you think our education system does a good job of educating students to compete on a global level?

 

Of course it’s the penalizing corporate taxes why corporations globalized and moved out of the US. Trump worked hard to reverse that and the Dems are not interested.

 

Politicians from both sides of the aisle insist we need a big "infrastructure" bill. And yet, I've traveled all over the country lately and everywhere I see...road construction. Seems no state is sitting and waiting for money to fix roads, bridges, etc. They sure seem to have enough.

 

Which is exactly what you are doing. Your use of raw numbers (well, like all statistics) is disingenuous at best.

There is no doubt that it is. Why do you think so many countries send students here.

 

I bet if you actually look that the road work being done is on federal highways.