Interview with Charlie Veitch - The truther who changed his mind

Chase? You come here constantly, you average 18 posts per day and they're either in the "Political Forums and Opinions" or the 9/11 section. You can't chase people when they are standing right next to you.

So how is it you escaped the brainwashing RTW? What secret method did you use to escape the brainwashing that all us other "sheeple" have fallen victim too? Or is this just more of your visions of grandeur? "You guys got sucked in, I'm obviously intellectually superior so I was not affected." Please, get over yourself. The only difference between us and you is that we aren't paranoid and scared of the government.

 

If they signed my paychecks, I MIGHT have a little more allegiance to them too.

 

So that explains your allegence to Alex "Obama is a Lizard-man" Jones. Gotcha.

 

Do you ever NOT insult an individual when you refer to them? Is Alex you latest obsession? You seem to target anyone that is even moderately effective in presenting or even trying to present the truth. You're pro "official" everything for some odd reason. Geez...wonder what that could be?

 

How is what I posted an insult? Alex said on his show that Obama is a lizard-man. Is that what you call 'trying to present the truth'?

 

Two options:

1) He really didn't say it

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2) It was taken out of context

 

Point is the pro "official" on everything. Nothing can be questioned, and everything and anything counter to an "official" presentation is automatically invalid, and to be ridiculed. Programmed like a clock.

 

You're going full retard again. And not just with the above, but because you're defending Alex Jones... as well his analysis that President Obama is a lizard-man.

 

You do what you can to educate....but in the end the twoof movement just goes to prove that you can't fix stupid.

 

How in depth are you versed as to various positions Alex Jone holds? You cherry picking, or have you thoroughly checked out all of his claims and found them to be untrue? You've researched everything he claims and found them all to be invalid? Maybe you're not able to discern and categorize information when it comes your way? 9/11 has many "problem" areas. So, are we to dismiss the entirety of what the source claims if we find one piece out of place?
The point is, well, should be obvious. Try not to go full retard on this one.

 

Lizard men.
Everything is a false flag perpetrated by the U.S. government including but not limited to: 9/11, Boston Marathon & Oklahoma City.
Fake moon landings.
The U.S. government has killed thousands of its own astronauts.
Mind control.
Mind control via water fluoridation.
bin Laden conspiracies.
New World Order.
Illuminati.
Da Joos!
FEMA Camps.
Weather weapon machine.
Martial law.
The big U.S. shootings were MK Ultra spin offs.

Need I continue?

 

One of my personal favorites is that the US gubmint is lining juice boxes with a product that makes our youth gay. He swore up and down that he "had the papers right here that proves it!" Anyone that defends or believes anything that Jones says is a moron. Jones is a joke.

 

Agreed to an overwhelming extent, however, Jones does say, from time to time, things that common people like us say, or what is being covered on television, like, the N.S.A. is spying on Americans, or something to that effect that is verifiably real.

EDIT: I would add that I feel Jones is either insane or something else entirely. As that one BBC reporter noted recently, as soon as the cameras stopped rolling, his tirade and 'act' stopped. He may just be an act. An "imposter" of some sort.

 

hahaha I remember that one

 

Of course. He is a fear-peddler. The bigger the fear, the more he can fear-monger and convert that fear into profit. Although I think he does believe most the crap he goes on about, his ranting/obtuse behaviour on cameras and on his show are mostly an act, because that's what his listens want, that's what they like, that's what they give him money for. And at the end of the day, that's all his goal is, not stopping the "NWO" or exposing the "state sponsored terrorism", it's turning a buck, which he does very successfully.

Fear sells. Look at Richard Gage. Look at David Ray Griffin. Look at Kevin Barrett. Look at David Icke, Dylan Avery, Luke Rudkowski, Jason Bermas, the list goes on. Total fear peddlers, and they make good money from it.

 

...and you've personally verified that none of those things you listed actually exist...correct? What do they do at Bilderberg meetings? Play cards?

Yes...by all means...continue.

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What do you know about any of these subjects? Anything?

 

Oh, so many predictions to keep his pudding-head audience in fear:

Predictions for 2010-2012

1 - Worldwide shortage of rare earth metals
2 - Food supply disruptions hit western nations
3 - Deadly superbug mutation goes wild
4 - New evidence links vaccines and neurological disorders
5 - U.S. power grid suffers catastrophic failure
6 - Satellite breakdown
7 - GM crop contamination leads to crisis
8 - Honeybee population collapse spreads to other species
9 - Weather patterns become increasingly radicalized
10 - Nuclear power sees global resurgence
11 - Nuclear weapons unleashed in the Middle East

Hmmm ... not very credible, is he? 0 for 11 at the top of his list.

 

Protip: When one makes outrageous claims, they need to be able to back them up. Not the other way around.

The onus is on Jones, and he's failed miserably to deliver.

 

This, a thousand times over this. The biggest problem with truthers, or ctists in general, is the attempts at reverse burden of proof. Just because Jones says it doesn't mean that everyone else has to prove it's wrong. It's on Jones to prove he's right, and he never does that. He yells, "I've got the proof right here." When it comes to show that evidence, it's never there. cj, hannibal, NAB, hell even Jango hit it on the head. In reply to Jango, I am not saying every single thing he says is a lie, but it's a classic example of the boy who cried wolf. There's a possibility that one day Jones is going to uncover something actually relevant, but no one worth a damn is going to listen. He's said too much complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*) for intelligent, educated people to believe anything he says.

That's why he's a joke. Making outrageous isn't like playing baseball. You can't get 3 out of every 10 right and expect to be successful, and as Hannibal just proved, Jones was an 0-for about 3 years....

 

Making outrageous claims* by the time I caught it I couldn't edit anymore, my bad.

 

There was one small incident concerning Jones that's always stuck in my craw, that epitomizes him. I listened to an interview he did with a NOLA resident post-Katrina (I was bored, so shoot me), and the guy made some reference to authorities having an issue with him being armed on his property (no, they didn't take his gun). As you might guess, Alex took this little anecdotal nugget and ran so far with it he completely lost sight of what was originall mentioned. Then he preceded to try and get the guy to agree with his nonsense hyperbole and the guy was stunned and said it was nothing like that.

Like I said, Alex in a nutshell, with EVERYTHING.

 

What a convenient way to dismiss anyone with opposing information to anything with one felt swoop. Just say "they're nuts", and *poof*, automatically everything they say becomes invalid without looking any further. Everybody is nuts that find unanswered or illogical information that counters anything "official". Just declare they're nuts and then everything instantly becomes "not credible". Great way to avoid, duck and dodge. I think I'll start using that approach with the shills I encounter and anything they reference. If you can''t beat 'em, join 'em, I guess.

Just say "you're nuts". That's all. Great way to avoid the content raised.

 

And the list goes on ... SOURCE

12 - New exotic superfood from South America emerges in western markets

13 - A high-tech, portable vitamin D sensor device is invented

14 - U.S. debt gets downgraded while world investors slash purchases of U.S. debt instruments

15 - U.S. nearly comes to military conflict with China over natural resources

16 - Huge new scandal implicates major pharmaceutical company in scientific fraud

17 - China unleashes armies of corporate espionage hackers onto western nations – Some debate on this is ongoing

18 - Medical imaging scandal unfolds as older patients begin to show serious health damage from radiation via mammograms, CT scans and more

19 - Another 9/11 false flag incident

20 - The world won’t end on December 21, 2012 – Hey, Ol' Leatherlungs got one right!!

21 - EPA pressured to regulate pharmaceuticals in the water supply

22 - Nursing home drugging scandal exposed

So now we are up to ... 1 out of 22 predictions correct. I wouldn't bet the grocery money on him, if I were you.

 

If the content raised is "The world is run by Lizard-men" and you broadcast that as fact .... guess what? You're nuts.

Go ahead and shill for the guy who preaches to you about the Lizard-men. Just don't expect to be taken very seriously.

 

I've honestly never seen someone defend him before, this is a first for me. I just assumed everyone knew he was full of (*)(*)(*)(*) and wind.