IPCC - Global Warming/Climate Change: Worst Is Yet to Come

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing like jumping into a thread and spouting ignorance to prove how irrelevant your post is. Problem with people like you, no matter how many other hypothesis are posted, you never read them and only spout your true belief.
     
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    And that's what happens every time you ask an AGW denier cultist to back up their deranged claims with some facts. They always say: "I already posted that", but of course they haven't. They have nothing to back up their claims. In this case Hooser claimed, very pointlessly, that there are other explanations for mid 20th century cooling other than the ones I listed, but when challenged to name even one alternative and point to the scientific research supporting it, he can't do it. He insists that the scientific explanations that are evidence based must be wrong and some other explanation is really true but he can't even name one of those imaginary explanations. Pathetic.

    Then he brings up the fact that "industrialization has not abated" and ignores the fact that clean air regulations in the USA (Clean Air Act - 1970) and Europe (EU Council Directive of 1980) eliminated most of the industrial aerosols that were causing the global dimming in the mid century period. Once the reflective industrial and volcanic aerosols diminished, CO2 driven global warming resumed with a vengeance in the late 70s, 80s and 90s. Some of the renewed dimming over the last fifteen years results from the Chinese and Indian industrialization and lack of pollution controls, plus some increased volcanic activity (20 eruptions in last 14 years compared to 12 eruptions in the previous 14 years).

    In spite of the increased dimming of the sunlight on top of a slight decline in solar irradiance over the last decade and a half, there has been no actual "hiatus" in the warming. The Earth has continued to take in more solar energy every day than the increased CO2 levels in the atmosphere are allowing to escape into space, and that has been verified by satellite instrumentation. The air and ocean temperatures have continued to increase and the Earth's ice has been melting at increasing rates.
     
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    Too bad actual observations do not reflect the CAGW predictions and alarmism in almost every quarter.

    It is also not my problem that any hypothesis that is counter to your true belief is invisible to you.
     
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    Very true. Very hilarious and also very pathetic.




    You're giving it too much credit. It is much more like a cult. A cult the fossil fuel industry propagandists ginned up to serve as their "useful idiot" foot soldiers in their desperate battle to prevent or delay any meaningful restrictions on carbon emissions.
     
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    Actually the real world observations indicate that the AGW predictions were mostly too conservative. Things are happening faster than predicted. Your denier cult myths about this are again just silly nonsense.

    You say that: "any hypothesis that is counter to your true belief is invisible to you" and that is just hilarious. Of course, the supposed alternative "hypothesis" you refer to is "invisible". You won't (can't) name it or even describe it. Nor have you explained why the mainstream scientific explanations are wrong or what difference it makes to ANYTHING, let alone AGW.
     
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    Too conservative? I guess that is why actual observation is within only 2% of the computer models. I guess that is why the prediction of worse hurricane seasons did not appear or why the Arctic is not ice free today.
     
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    Another fallacious denier cult myth. The models are doing fine.

    IPCC model global warming projections have done much better than you think
    Global warming since 1990 has fallen within the range of IPCC climate model projections

    The Guardian
    Dana Nuccitelli
    1 October 2013





    Topical cyclone intensity has increased. An example would be the super typhoon that devastated the Philippines.

    Climate scientists were predicting an ice free summer Arctic by about 2070, then the ice melted faster and they started predicting 2050. Then the ice melted even faster and the predictions have recently been around 2030. A few scientists, due to the speed of the ice loss, are now saying that it might happen by the end of this decade. One scientist, Professor Wieslaw Maslowski, predicted that the Arctic would be ice free in the summer by 2016 plus or minus 3 years. That one scientist is the source of your denier cult myth, and your myth is phony. Most scientists did not agree with Maslowski's prediction of 2016 +/- 3 years, but all of them predict the Arctic will be ice free at some point in the not too distant future. Maslowski's prediction has until 2019 before it is falsified. The Arctic may well be ice free in the summer by then or even sooner, considering how fast the ice is shrinking, thinning and disappearing.
     
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    LOL, you mean Nuccitelli of SkepticalScience and the 97% consensus and a pretty thin bio?

    Also a 'professional' blogger. Dana Nuccitelli is a blogger on environmentguardian.co.uk. He is an environmental scientist and risk assessor, and also contributes to SkepticalScience.com http://www.theguardian.com/profile/dana-nuccitelli

    Interesting that he works for an Oil and Gas company, Tetra Tech. And ironically, Tetra Tech is big in mining too, for those that want to talk trash about Steve McIntyre’s work in the mining industry.

    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dana-nuccitelli/7/a44/661

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    So should he give up his 'green' card?
     
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    So you can't dispute the factual information in that article (no surprise) that debunks your myths about climate models so you try to change the subject and try to attack the author. Then you lie about where he works. Tetra Tech is not "an oil and gas company", although they do some consulting work in that area. Dana Nuccitelli is listed as an environmental scientist with the company and Tetra Tech does work in many fields.

    If you google Tetra Tech, this description comes up in many places:

    Tetra Tech provides environmental engineering and consulting services addressing complex water contamination, cultural resource management, and other environmental issues.

    From the companies website:

    Tetra Tech is a leading provider of consulting, engineering, and technical services worldwide. We are a diverse company, including individuals with expertise in science, research, engineering, construction, and information technology. Our strength is in collectively providing integrated services—delivering the best solutions to meet our clients' needs.

    Our Mission

    To be the premier worldwide consulting, engineering, and construction firm.

    Our Business Groups

    Engineering and Consulting Services: We provide scientific, consulting, engineering, and project management services for water resources, water and wastewater facilities, watershed management, mining, geotechnical, environmental, transportation, and information technology projects.

    Technical Support Services: We provide consulting and architect/engineering services to support international development, climate change and environmental programs, energy management and high performance buildings, disaster management and emergency response, and staff augmentation/facilities management projects.

    Remediation and Construction Management: We provide program management and construction services, including design-build and design-bid-build services, for environmental remediation, infrastructure, heavy civil, military transformation, ports and harbors, energy, and communications projects.
     

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