Iranian Regime Cracks Down As Protesters Wreak Havoc Across The Country

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  1. Nemesis

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    Here's your reminder.
     
  2. notme

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    like in the US.
    you're using a gaslight.

    American cops got an international reputation of killing unarmed black people. Even when they are handcuffed.
    America got a reputation that even though they finally for a change are locking up some bad cops, it still got a massive group of people supporting this called "defend the blue".

    A cop isn't a Mullah. And 200 or make it 300 people out of 10,000's... so? It only shows there is a heck of a lot of restraint.
    While them protests are still not exactly peaceful. Cops are shot at, even when their wives are walking with them and so also get hit.

    https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-gunmen-kill-police-officer-sistan-baluchistan/31872717.html
     
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    He wasn't hanged for protesting, he was hanged for murdering 2 people.
    They also suspected him of stabbed an other 4 during the riots.


    You're so beloved Israel blows up entire apartment building without a care in the world how many people died in order to get rid of such a Muslim. But not with a Jew, of course.
     
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  4. The Scotsman

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    I think it's Iran we're discussing

    again...I think it's Iran we're discussing.

    I don't know the employment contracts of Mullahs maybe they moonlight as police...who knows....

    ...so the basis of the protests has just swept past you....whoosh.....
     
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    We are. I'm just putting things into perspective. And by doing so, Iran doesn't look that strange.

    So you can not back up your claim they are Mullahs.
    Big surprise!

    point stands that no government would allow some kind of cop killer to be on the lose.
    There is nothing odd that those people get executed in a country where there is a deathpenalty.
    The US does this too.
     
  6. The Scotsman

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    sorry what claim that who are mullahs?....Mullahs are mullahs aren't they...you mentioned they can also be police...I don't know if they can but as I said I'm not familiar with an Iranian Mullahs employment contract
     
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    ....whose perspective are you trying to inserting what into?
     
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    I actually wrote the exact opposite: A cop isn't a Mullah.
    I can't say you agreed with that, since you gaslighted around a Mullah could be a cop as a side business or something.

    A person in Iran was killed in jail (I think it was) for not wearing a headscarve good enough.
    It's not any different from a black man being killed in the streets by the cops in the US for selling illegal cigarettes.

    Lots of Americans support this kind of lynching of black people over the most smallest of infractions when done by cops. Specifically white cops on black people.


    So the perspective is that it's not that much worse in Iran.
    You just want it to be. But it's not.
     
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  9. Gilos

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    It's not surprising that you cant see the difference between crocked cops and official state laws oppression, you know who does ? African American that don't go to war against US gov and that Iranian youth that does go against theirs. tell it to them if you can.
     
  10. Iranian Monitor

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    You have to first understand who are the opposition groups that seek to overthrow the regime.
    https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2020/jul/02/profiles-iranian-opposition-groups
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    Farashgard (Revival)
    The Washington Institute is pro Israeli think tank but some things are too well known to be subject to much dispute, with the dispute focused on extent and level of support (not the support itself) and US involvement in some of the terrorist activities these groups have engaged in. This particular report is from 2007 to provide further background and context.
    https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/us-support-iranian-opposition
    U.S. Support for the Iranian Opposition
     
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    I'm not comparing Eric Garner with an Iranian cop killer.

    I'm comparing that Iranian woman who got killed in jail over her scarf with Eric Garner who sold a dozen cigarettes on the streets.
    Both trivial infractions with the law, that got them killed without the government putting cops who did this behind bars.


    I did comparing that Iranian cop killer with a cop killer in the US.
    Both got sentenced to death for obvious reasons.
     
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    .....women being killed for none compliance with fashion codes?
     
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    no not good at all.....what is good about a young woman being murdered because of a fashion violation?
    is that allowed under the law?
     
  14. Iranian Monitor

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    First, you don't present the facts accurately. And that is because the groups I reviewed in my last message are behind the stories you read about Iran. Second, my comments about foreign support had little to do with the anti-morality police and hijab protests (which are openly supported by US, EU et al). Those protests (while fanned by outside forces) have indigenous roots. But almost all the 400 people who have died following the protests have been killed in either in Iran's Baluchistan region or in Iran's Kurdish region. And the issues in these regions and the groups involved have nothing to do really with the Hijab protests.

    These pictures from a report by VOA today show the Iran I experienced this summer in terms of hijab compliance, even before the protests.
    https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-women-without-hijab-protests/32195608.html
    In Iran, More And More Photos Show Women Ditching The Hijab
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    ....pots n' kettles....
    let me guess...they don't want to be ruled by mad mullahs?
     
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    Nothing
    Out of the perspective of non Americans: if this is the law that a cop can kill over a pack of sigs, than the law is just as wrong as a murder for a fashion problem.

    And it seems you got a deliberate hard time catching on, out of support of killing an unarmed black guy over a pack of sigs. Why else ask that dumb question....
     
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  17. Iranian Monitor

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    These videos are from early 2022, before the protests. They walk you through several malls and and supermarkets in Iran. Pay attention to what women are wearing. Even before the protests, hijab compliance was hardly universal. I know: I spent the entire summer in Iran and my teenage daughter would go out with her friends and cousins without the hijab, leaving me a bit worried she might get in trouble. Fortunately, nothing happened. Sure: I would much prefer not having to worry about the issue, but no I'm not willing to risk Iran turn into the next Syria or Iraq over this issue either.

     
  18. The Scotsman

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    so if it's such a dumb question answer it.....
    so......is it unconditionally legal for a policeman to kill a black guy over a pack of cigs? yes or no? It's legal in Iran to kill a woman for a fashion violation.
     
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    You're free to answer your own questions.

    And as far as I know, no cops were found guilty in court in any country.

    Point is: it remains equally wrong.
     
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    I only watched the second one and apart from to two wee lasses with the long pony tails...what were they 6-7? Every woman wore a head covering. So my question, if these women took off their head scarfs and went about their business in the mall would they be approached and told to cover up, would they be in violation of a rule about not wearing a head scarf?
     
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    I'm sorry was that a yes or no?
     
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    I'm sorry. I'm no lawyer. Go answer your own questions, and source it please.

    Point remains: it's equally wrong in both countries, no matter what kind of law or jury says.
    At no point is this able to be sold as something normal to any kind of foreigner with an average IQ.
     
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    yeah....so basically we've debunked your crap.

    thanks I appreciate your back-peddling but as you know that wasn't your comparison....
     
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    You're posting questions and so it's your crap. And it remains so that as far as I know, no cop was found guilty of something about either thing.

    Back-peddling? I just put it in perspective that cops murder people in both countries over utterly trivial things.
    It's not if you're denying this. You're just gaslighting.
     
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  25. Iranian Monitor

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    Watch the first one too. Covers 5 malls in 3-4 different districts of Tehran with quite a few without the headscarf. I'm pretty sure there would be a couple w/o the headscarf in the 2nd one too, but I would have to double check.
    They could be approached and told to cover up. Yes. If they don't comply, or argue about it, they would be taken to the police station and sign a promise to comply. If they refused, they could be charged. The punishment even if convicted would typically be a fine but can include up to 60 days in jail for repeat offenders.
     
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