IRS denies tax exempt status to group for linking Christianity to politics

You're just using a logical fallacy (equivocation) with your repeated reference to "PAC" and refusal to define more specifically.

I will invite others reading here to observe that.

Keep repeating "They are a PAC" all you want, it doesn't matter.
You're just obscuring the actual issue with that.

 

You don't like it when it's pointed out this is just a partisan PAC. We get it. No need to to run around lying about what is immediately obvious about your lame attempts at making these morons out to be 'victims'. The 'actual issue' is they're a PAC, and they aren't a 501.c3 organization, and never were and never will be. Inviting other conspiracy buffs is fine, they aren't going to the change the real facts any more than you have.

 

No, I'm just pointing out that what you're doing is an equivocation fallacy. It's not logically rational.

Do you want to talk about what exactly it is you are referring to when you call it a "partisan PAC"?
Because I don't think those things will actually be inconsistent with what the law is here.

This organization should get tax exempt status. Your efforts to use overgeneralization and label it a "partisan PAC" doesn't change that.

If this organization should not be granted tax exempt status, can you tell me why any of those other organizations on the Left that encourage people to vote should get tax exempt status?

What this group is doing is no different from that, combined with the type of thing that often goes on in a church or religious institution.

Keep in mind this group is not explicitly partisan. They don't actually directly tell people to vote for a certain candidate or party. (Although of course we all know that is their purpose, but again that's not so different from groups on the Left that go into certain neighborhoods encouraging people to vote)

 

I never said it was required. I inferred it is uncommon for a church to not claim 501c3, which it is. Sure they exist, but they're few and far between. Are you asserting that only 'crooks' would ever mix politics and spirituality? Or are you trying to point out a distinction between religion and spirituality?

 

lol same rubbish you've already posted and already answered. The fallacies are all on your part. They're a PAC, and they know it.

 

Since churches are not incorporated, I have no idea where you get the notion churches are required to incorporate to get a tax exemption; they don't have to. The IRS sends them a form 1023 and they get a letter they can copy to give to their donors for their tax records if their donations are ever questioned. That's it, that's the whole involvement the IRS has with churches, and it isn't required by any law, it's a convenience for their donors. Christians Engaged has nothing to do with 502.c3. it's a political lobbying group, period, and trying to get away with a very shallow gimmick. They do nothing that qualifies their donors to get tax deductions for their donations; they aren't a church or a charity. They can file under other statutes for non-profits, and nobody is stopping them.

I don't do strawmen rubbish, so your last two sentences aren't relevant to this issue.

 

Next, we have the info on who has to file form 990:

Section 509(a)(3) supporting organizations.

A section 509(a)(3) supporting organization must file Form 990 or 990-EZ, even if its gross receipts are normally $50,000 or less, and even if it is described in Rev. Proc. 96-10, 1996-1 C.B. 577, or is an affiliate of a governmental unit described in Rev. Proc. 95-48,1995-2 C.B. 418, unless it qualifies as:

1. An integrated auxiliary of a church described in Regulations section 1.6033-2(h);
2. The exclusively religious activities of a religious order; or
3. 
   An organization, the gross receipts of which are normally not more than $5,000, that supports a section 501(c)(3) religious organization.

If the organization is described in (3) but not in (1) or (2), then it must submit Form 990-N unless it voluntarily files Form 990 or 990-EZ.

https://www.irs.gov/instructions/i990

This PAC doesn't fit 1 or 2 or 3. This is reinforced throughout the IRS codes and guidelines. Only idiots can't find this stuff out.

Now, how does this work? Simple:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterj...uin-it-with-corporation-sole/?sh=55a52da292ca

See the sections on filing form 990 for the Catholic Church here :

https://www.usccb.org/sites/default/files/about/general-counsel/upload/USCCB-990-Guide.pdf

Not everything they do is 'tax exempt'.

 

For those ***** on the Left who like to get all butthurt over 501.c3 exemptions, this article is of interest:

https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2013/01/18/the-church-nonprofits-and-taxes/

Angered that the bishops helped frustrate her side’s legislative goals, Democratic Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey of California, in an op-ed piece for Politco (Nov. 9, 2009), called on the IRS to investigate the “political behavior” of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB). Strangely, Rep. Woolsey didn’t object when the bishops lobbied for immigration reform and the ratification of the New START Treaty (signed in 2010 by the United States and Russia). No one, including Rep. Woolsey and even the Catholic bishops, ever questioned the legal right of the progressive religions denominations, who often lobby against any legal restrictions on abortion and supported the inclusion of abortion coverage in ObamaCare. Since the USCCB remains tax-exempt, it seems that the IRS found Rep. Woolsey’s complaint without any merit.

Be careful what you wish for. And if you keep voting for morons and deranged neo-fascist gimps like Lynn Woolsey, you will get far worse.