Is America Headed for a New Kind of Civil War?

Not responsive. Read my question again.

 

The Mason Dixon line means nothing anymore. If there is geographical division, and there is, it is The Heartland against the Coasts![/QUOTE]

The Mason Dixon line never meant very much.

 

Straight to the point: your problem is you don't like the right answer not being what you want.

 

And straight to the point answer will be welcome.

 

The Mason Dixon line never meant very much.[/QUOTE]
East Tennessee was strong Unionist. Also parts of Texas.

 

East Tennessee was strong Unionist. Also parts of Texas.[/QUOTE]

The Unionists were probably the majority to the end, but militants are always better organized and coercive organized violence can be very effective.

“As late as April 4, the Virginia convention voted down a proposal to draw up an ordinance of secession by an almost to two-to-one majority.” Myth and Southern History, Volume 1: The Old South, Second Edition, Edited by Patrick Gerstner and Nicholas Cords, University of Illinois Press, 1989.

 

The Unionists were probably the majority to the end, but militants are always better organized and coercive organized violence can be very effective.

“As late as April 4, the Virginia convention voted down a proposal to draw up an ordinance of secession by an almost to two-to-one majority.” Myth and Southern History, Volume 1: The Old South, Second Edition, Edited by Patrick Gerstner and Nicholas Cords, University of Illinois Press, 1989.[/QUOTE]

 

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The Unionists were probably the majority to the end, but militants are always better organized and coercive organized violence can be very effective.

“As late as April 4, the Virginia convention voted down a proposal to draw up an ordinance of secession by an almost to two-to-one majority.” Myth and Southern History, Volume 1: The Old South, Second Edition, Edited by Patrick Gerstner and Nicholas Cords, University of Illinois Press, 1989.[/QUOTE]
General George Thomas, one of my favorite Union Generals....the "Rock of Chickamagua" was a native Virginian. He was often overlooked for promotion due to that fact, but he served to the end! My Gx2 grandfather served under him.

 

The endorsement of anyone that supports civil rights by the Neo-Nazi White Supremacists is a political "dirty trick" in attempting to prevent them from being elected. Civil Rights activists do not support David Duke (or Donald Trump's) agenda. While these dirty trick endorsements by Neo-Nazi White Supremacist won't stop people that know a politicians civil rights stance it can affect the less informed voters to vote against the candidate.

On the flip side the endorsement by the KKK of Donald Trump did exactly the opposite because the core Donald Trump supporters and the GOP in general are opposed to civil rights. The KKK endorsement of Donald Trump increased the vote for Donald Trump because of the commonality of Trump supporters and the agenda of the KKK.

But this strays from the topic of the thread that goes back to the possible "civil war" in America today that would be identical to the past. It will only materialize based upon the (Neo-Nazi) White (WASP Male) Supremacists rising up in a treasonous armed insurrection against the Constitutional government of the United States just like they did in 1861. Just like in 1861 their propaganda (lies based upon half-truths) will convince uninformed Americans to join in their treason. They will be opposed by the Law Enforcement, the National Guard, the US military and every American that believes in the Constitution of the United States and the Rule of Law in America.

If it occurs it would be a conflict of American Patriots v American Traitors no different from the Union v Confederacy conflict between 1861-1865 when the Union had to suppress the armed insurrection against the Constitution by the Confederacy.

 

The average American will ignore the message if s/he knows the endorsement comes from a white supremacist or klan or neo-nazi individual.

 

The only question is at least who are this time the Patriots and whoa re the Traitors, eh?
Of course I know your answer still, but maybe an interesting news that they will say the same about you then?

 

Not really. The southern traitors would lose again.

 

General George Thomas, one of my favorite Union Generals....the "Rock of Chickamagua" was a native Virginian. He was often overlooked for promotion due to that fact, but he served to the end! My Gx2 grandfather served under him.[/QUOTE]

Lincoln's Coopers Union speech detailed Southern concerns about the morality of slavery at the time of the revolution. The 'slavery is good' nonsense and agitation for secession seems to have first become serious in SC while Jackson was President. But the "peculiar institution" jackasses did not have the guts to take up arms against Old Hickory.

Later Southern militants were convinced that Lincoln would be a pushover - ignorant and foolish to the bitter end.

 

In fact, the KKK, has always been an anti-Republican violent arm of the DP. Racist National socialist leaders have given detailed explanations for their endorsement of Obama over any Republican.

"Obama might be a better candidate for our cause because he's racially conscious. One of our big things in the National Alliance is to raise the racial consciousness of our people. Young whites in universities, they've been stripped of any kind of racial identity. Obama may be a racist in a positive sense for his people--that will awaken a lot of the whites, knock some sense into them. … I give Obama credit, he seems to have stuck to his guns as far as pulling the troops out of Iraq. He's a very intelligent man, an excellent speaker and has charisma. John McCain offers none of that. Perhaps the best thing for the white race is to have a black president. My only problem with Obama is perhaps he's not black enough.” Erich Gliebe, “Who: Chairman, National Alliance; Likes: Third Reich, the movie Rocky; Dislikes: Integration, Jewish-controlled med.”
ESQUIRE, Why White Supremacists Support Barack Obama, BY DAVID PEISNER, JUN 11, 2009.
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a4719/racists-support-obama-061308/

You need to hit the books and avoid the alt left FN sites until you have a better grounding in the reality of political history.

What passes for a "Leftist" these days would not recognize a real Nazi if they were married to one, and I suspect that happens a lot.

 

We both know you know this statement is not true.

 

America is haunted by the specter of a civil war. What will it be, the revolt of the Negroes and Latinos, the class battles between the bourgeoisie and the proletariat (okay, okay between the middle class and the "fat cats"), the national liberation movement of the Indians, or, in general, the religious war? I think that soon we will see.


Let's see what types of conflicts are possible.

1. Conflict between states, more precisely, between nations of these states. All the same, not the countries themselves are at war, but people are citizens of these countries. This is an ordinary war between states. Further, we will not consider this type of conflict, it is definitely not the same.
2. Social conflict or conflict between classes. So to say, proletarians against the bourgeoisie (middle class against "fat cats"). Mmm, no. In the US there is no antagonism between the rich (as a social class) and the rest of the population. There is something in this, but there will definitely be no class battles like Russia in 1917.
3. Conflict between ethnic groups, or between nations. This is mainly an internal conflict - it is possible.
4. Conflict between races. This is also an internal conflict, perhaps.
5. Religious conflict. Paradoxically, it also is possible.

The self-esteem of Americans is very tears one's ego by Theory of the Melting Pot of Nations. (Now, due to considerations of political correctness, she was replaced by the theory of a salad bowl.)

We are looking at the EU.
Now European multiculturalism is collapsing before our eyes. The cornerstone of multiculturalism is the dissolution of peoples in each other and the emergence of a single European culture. The creation of the European Union in the future was aimed at the emergence of a single state. For such a state, a single political civic nation is needed. It began to be created with the help of multiculturalism. The Europeans began to dissolve the peoples in a single whole by caress, with the help of avoiding conflicts. While the matter concerned historically related European nations at the stage of the economic recovery of the European Union, everything seemed to go well, even the Turks did not stand out. The same principle was applied to the rest of the Muslim emigrants, they began to happily accept and help in every possible way. And then there was a failure, the Muslims did not want to dissolve. They affectionately tried to dissolve them in Europeans, naturally perceived as the weakness of Europe. The consequences are now observed. There are already jokes: "What will happen before, the victory of democracy from the Arabs, or the victory of the Sharia from the Europeans"
With the rest of the European nations, too, not everything is fine, as soon as the overall economic "pie" of the standard of living began to decline, so the people immediately rushed to the exit from the European Union. No people wanted to dissolve. Sounds like the same mistake. Gradually the emerging political civil nation of the European Union was accepted for a new all-European people. "We Europeans" crumbles before our eyes, and only feeble-minded Ukrainians are trying to get on the already sinking ship.

The same thing awaits the United States. As soon as the standard of living falls to a critical level, a social explosion will occur. And the presence of many millions of weapons in the hands of citizens will make this explosion very effective. The US will get a boomerang of color revolutions.

This will provoke many conflicts around the world. Again, Germany will come Poland. Because it is inevitable. Since 2020, the eastern bloc of countries will not receive European subsidies. Hundreds of billions of euros. All these countries will become poor in one night. This will embitter Germany's eastern partners in the EU. Poland already now requires has a trillion euros from Germany for the occupation.....

This is an example..... In general, I do not think anyone will be bored.

 

In fact, the KKK moved over lock stock and barrel to the southern GOP beginning with Nixon's election and was completed by the early 1990s.

 

And, no, America is not haunted by the spectre of a new CW.

The LEO, the military, and the neighbors will put down any uprising and go back to gardening.

 

What Europeans needed was a Common Market to encourage them to think of other Europeans as customers - as opposed to bullet sponges.

But how can any real European be expected to resist any excuse to create another spirit crushing leviathan state?

 

Lincoln's Coopers Union speech detailed Southern concerns about the morality of slavery at the time of the revolution. The 'slavery is good' nonsense and agitation for secession seems to have first become serious in SC while Jackson was President. But the "peculiar institution" jackasses did not have the guts to take up arms against Old Hickory.

Later Southern militants were convinced that Lincoln would be a pushover - ignorant and foolish to the bitter end.[/QUOTE]
Old Hickory was a force to be reckoned with!

 

Old Hickory was a force to be reckoned with![/QUOTE]

Oh, yes. He was itching for an excuse to hang the Calhoun clique from the lamp posts of Charleston.

 

Is America Headed for a New Kind of Civil War?

Based on the casualties and after-effects of the last one, I certainly hope not.

 

What twisted logic led you to this conclusion? Give us some examples to support your claims.

 

Your party is currently tearing down your own democrat statues of your past. Your party has tried to label the right with your racism. Is it really that hard to see 2+2=4, or is it common core math that has you so confused, or is it just a lie... I think that is pretty clear too