Not true I believe what can be demonstrated by science to be more likely factual than not, when the object of the inquiry cannot be studied directly. Black holes are a fine example they theoretically are expected to exist according to General Relativity, we can see in Astronomy the impact on areas they are in indirectly such as in the center of our own galaxy evidence of a supermassive gravity mass was assume is a black hole due to the extreme gravity and can see them when they devour matter with giant plumes of energy in other galaxies. So we logically assume they are real but can't see one and if one got close enough to send probes to we would likely be in DEEP trouble. Claims of religion is no different if you say there was a massive global flood or Exodus from Egypt in divine fashion there should be evidence that could be seen like for the latter records of neighbors and enemies of the fall the great nation. I would say our belief like a few others is based on Philosophy which is acceptable as a basis of a faith.
Then it seems to be the lack of faith in an eternal life may be why you place such a negative value on pain and suffering. When, if the believers are correct, no matter the severity of the pain and suffering and death we experience here on Earth, it is not even a blip on the radar of eternity. Therefore, the stories you rest on in the Bible are only relevant in justifying the mindset of the non-Believer. Interesting. Thank you, this has helped me think through a lot of what my Grandfather has stumbled on.
Lets not call certainty arrogance. Do you call preachers on the pulpit "arrogant"? Did the Pope call Gallileo arrogant and force him to renounce his findings? The claim to knowledge does not necessarily preclude arrogance. R. Dawkins is R. Dawkins. Some of these atheist authors go about renouncing religion in order to point out what they see and how the evasion of truth only damages and retards the progress of mankind. Believers have a natural disdain for such a person, because they have been taught about god all of their life and don't know any better. I think thats why they try to pin the whole "atheism is a religion" thing. By saying "atheism is a religion", they can therefore bring the argument down to their level and start comparing religions. Personally I don't see the point in arguing about whether god exists or not in private, because the believer's idea of what is acceptable proof is false, so the argument ends in stalemate. I do think it is worth arguing about what exactly an atheist is, which is why I'm here. People have their own private reasons for not believing like everyone else. Some don't care. I guess it all depends on how dedicated you are to truth, logic and reality and where you seek to find it. Some are happy to wander about their everyday lives with unsubstantiated conclusions, emotional discourse and unproven realizations. Some seek to evade truth and reality altogether.
What I don't understand about you (specifically YOU) that you are so certain that Athiests "KNOW" there is no god. rather than they don't think (repeat) "THINK" there is no god.
So you believe it's possible to "KNOW" there is no god or anything beyond the physical? How do you come by such knowledge? Please enlighten all of us with your wisdom.
You didn't say it explicitly. In fact, all you did was post "That's a boatload of text, for such a simple dodge" without any explanation of what you meant. I only guessed. If I guessed wrong, please amplify what you meant and why you disagreed so vehemently with One Mind's post.